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    Re: Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol

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    Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol - NBC News



    the wave of flag removal is moving down the coast.... where will it end?


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    Re: Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Once the Stars and Bars are all down racism will be officially over, right?
    The flag in question is not the stars and bars. the stars and bars was the first flag of the confederate state. this is a completely different flag and was only used by Genera Lee

    I'm hearing from a few Native Americans that the Stars and Stripes is no less offensive to them. It never occurred to me before, but they have a good point if they decide to make it public.
    welcome to the united states of the offended.

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    Re: Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Once the Stars and Bars are all down racism will be officially over, right?
    Don't be ridiculous!

    I'm hearing from a few Native Americans that the Stars and Stripes is no less offensive to them. It never occurred to me before, but they have a good point if they decide to make it public.
    (Deep breath 'cause this may be a little difficult for some people to swallow...) The difference here is Native Americans as a whole opted to live "separate" from most Americans. As such, they're welcome to wave their tribal banners as high as they want while residing on the Reservation, but once they choose to leave the tribe (kinda to young Amish children who choose to separate from their Amish communities when they enter adulthood), they're free to stand firm under Old Glory as they please.
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    Re: Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    The flag in question is not the stars and bars. the stars and bars was the first flag of the confederate state. this is a completely different flag and was only used by Genera Lee



    welcome to the united states of the offended.
    Right. Battle Flag.










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    Re: Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    utterly stupid. this is PC run amoke. the shooting had nothing to do with the confederate flag.
    people are knee jerk reaction.

    Designed by William Porcher Miles, the chairman of the Flag and Seal committee, a now-popular variant of the Confederate flag was rejected as the national flag in 1861. It was instead adopted as a battle flag by the Army of Northern Virginia under General Lee.[30] Despite never having historically represented the CSA as a country nor officially recognized as one of the national flags.

    people blaming a flag is logical idiocy
    People aren't blaming the Confederate Flag for the shooting. They ARE, however, placing the flag in its proper context in as far as how it was (and has been) used as a symbol of racial hatred. As such, and in particular since it IS a flag that has no relevant official representation for any state within the Union but acts only as a item of personal passion or sentimental remembrance of those who died during the Civil War (on the side of the Confederacy), the flag really should be placed in a museum rather than flown on state grounds anywhere in this country with the exception of Civil War Memorials and/or grave sites.
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    Re: Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    utterly stupid. this is PC run amoke. the shooting had nothing to do with the confederate flag.
    people are knee jerk reaction.

    Designed by William Porcher Miles, the chairman of the Flag and Seal committee, a now-popular variant of the Confederate flag was rejected as the national flag in 1861. It was instead adopted as a battle flag by the Army of Northern Virginia under General Lee.[30] Despite never having historically represented the CSA as a country nor officially recognized as one of the national flags.

    people blaming a flag is logical idiocy
    No one is blaming the flag. We are correctly blaming the violent and racist culture of the people who wave that flag. We reject the awful ideas they stand for, and we reject the symbol that they use to represent those ideas.
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    Re: Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Don't be ridiculous!

    (Deep breath 'cause this may be a little difficult for some people to swallow...) The difference here is Native Americans as a whole opted to live "separate" from most Americans. As such, they're welcome to wave their tribal banners as high as they want while residing on the Reservation, but once they choose to leave the tribe (kinda to young Amish children who choose to separate from their Amish communities when they enter adulthood), they're free to stand firm under Old Glory as they please.
    How did that work, "opted to live separate"? Who gave them the choice?

    All that deep breathing seems to have caused you to miss the point. Some native Americans apparently feel that the US Flag is a flag of oppression.










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    Re: Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Right. Battle Flag.
    Oh, you mean the flag of a defeated treasonous army?

    Pffffttt....

    Who cares?

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    Re: Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    About time, we need to move away from this nonsense and leave these flags in the history books where they belong.
    Isn't fhe US flag a longer live symbol of White oppression than the Confederate? Maybe it's time to trash that one.

    See where this could lead?
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    Re: Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Isn't fhe US flag a longer live symbol of White oppression than the Confederate? Maybe it's time to trash that one.

    See where this could lead?
    Is South Carolina a state in the Confederate States of America or the United States of America?

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