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    U.S Changes Hostage Policy.....

    US won't prosecute hostages' families who pay ransom.....


    The Obama administration will tell families of Americans held by terror groups that they can communicate with captors and even pay ransom without fear of prosecution part of a broad review of U.S. hostage guidelines that will be released Wednesday.

    President Barack Obama, in a softening of longstanding policy, ordered the review last fall after the deaths of Americans held hostage by Islamic State militants. The families of some of those killed complained about their dealings with the administration, saying they were threatened with criminal prosecution if they pursued paying ransom in exchange for their loved ones' release.

    Two people familiar with the review said there will be no formal change to the law, which explicitly makes it a crime to provide money or other material support to terror organizations. However, the administration will make clear that the Justice Department has never prosecuted anyone for paying ransom and that that will continue to be the case.....snip~

    US won't prosecute hostages' families who pay ransom


    Well now.....what do you think of this? Despite there being no formal change to the law. Should families be allowed to negotiate with Terrorists?
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    So Obama feels the wealthy will be able to get their children back and the not so wealthy will be given videos of their children being slaughtered. Add to this if ransoms will now be paid by families would you want you child over their? Think the number of kidnappings may now go up? Duh...and some say GWB was stupid.

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    Re: U.S Changes Hostage Policy.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    US won't prosecute hostages' families who pay ransom.....


    The Obama administration will tell families of Americans held by terror groups that they can communicate with captors and even pay ransom without fear of prosecution — part of a broad review of U.S. hostage guidelines that will be released Wednesday.

    President Barack Obama, in a softening of longstanding policy, ordered the review last fall after the deaths of Americans held hostage by Islamic State militants. The families of some of those killed complained about their dealings with the administration, saying they were threatened with criminal prosecution if they pursued paying ransom in exchange for their loved ones' release.

    Two people familiar with the review said there will be no formal change to the law, which explicitly makes it a crime to provide money or other material support to terror organizations. However, the administration will make clear that the Justice Department has never prosecuted anyone for paying ransom and that that will continue to be the case.....snip~

    US won't prosecute hostages' families who pay ransom


    Well now.....what do you think of this? Despite there being no formal change to the law. Should families be allowed to negotiate with Terrorists?
    not only should families be allowed to, but if a family pays a ransom and another hostage whos family can't pay is killed all the families that paid should be charged with felony murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    So Obama feels the wealthy will be able to get their children back and the not so wealthy will be given videos of their children being slaughtered. Add to this if ransoms will now be paid by families would you want you child over their? Think the number of kidnappings may now go up? Duh...and some say GWB was stupid.
    Personally I don't think the Government should ever negotiate with terrorist for any reason. If people choose to go those parts of the world, knowing the chances of something bad happening is great then they are on their own. It's called Personnel Responsibility, something lots of people talk about but very few actually practice.
    If the parents want to try to deal with the terrorist they can roll the dice and take their chances.

    I know you have a very narrow view of the world and hate anyone that don't toe the line, but no president (regardless of the alphabet letter they wear} can control what people decide to do.

    And yes, GWB was, is and always will be stupid. Just like the last 4 or 5 presidents we've had. Not to mention all the congress critters and senate snakes.
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    Re: U.S Changes Hostage Policy.....

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    not only should families be allowed to, but if a family pays a ransom and another hostage whos family can't pay is killed all the families that paid should be charged with felony murder.
    Mornin' EMN. Why should the families that pay a ransom be charged with felony murder?

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    Re: U.S Changes Hostage Policy.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' EMN. Why should the families that pay a ransom be charged with felony murder?
    because if terrorists come to believe they can finance their activities through ransom they'll kidnap more and more americans for money. what these families are doing if they pay ransom to terrorist groups is (maybe) getting their own kid back at the expense of many others.

    what will happen when they kidnap someone who's fam can't pay?
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    Re: U.S Changes Hostage Policy.....

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    because if terrorists come to believe they can finance their activities through ransom they'll kidnap more and more americans for money. what these families are doing if they pay ransom to terrorist groups is (maybe) getting their own kid back at the expense of many others.

    what will happen when they kidnap someone who's fam can't pay?
    How many years in prison would you give to a family member who tried to ransom back their loved one, got caught and arrested, and then their loved one got beheaded by ISIS?
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    Re: U.S Changes Hostage Policy.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    US won't prosecute hostages' families who pay ransom.....


    The Obama administration will tell families of Americans held by terror groups that they can communicate with captors and even pay ransom without fear of prosecution — part of a broad review of U.S. hostage guidelines that will be released Wednesday.

    President Barack Obama, in a softening of longstanding policy, ordered the review last fall after the deaths of Americans held hostage by Islamic State militants. The families of some of those killed complained about their dealings with the administration, saying they were threatened with criminal prosecution if they pursued paying ransom in exchange for their loved ones' release.

    Two people familiar with the review said there will be no formal change to the law, which explicitly makes it a crime to provide money or other material support to terror organizations. However, the administration will make clear that the Justice Department has never prosecuted anyone for paying ransom and that that will continue to be the case.....snip~

    US won't prosecute hostages' families who pay ransom


    Well now.....what do you think of this? Despite there being no formal change to the law. Should families be allowed to negotiate with Terrorists?
    Good morning MMC

    Anyone want to hazard a guess why vessels traveling the Gulf of Aden, the Arabian Sea, and the Indian Ocean off the cost of East Africa are frequently taken over by Somali pirates? I'll give a hint - it's because European nations and nationals readily forked over tens of $millions to the pirates for the release of their loved ones and property. When crime pays, crime increases.

    Now, look at what happens when Chinese, Iranian, Indian or American vessels are attacked. Somali pirates get blown out of the water and their bases in Somalia are attacked.

    You want to see a rise in Americans kidnapped throughout the world? Just make it profitable and see what happens. With this new policy announcement, if I was an American of means, I wouldn't leave North America without a significant security force for protection.
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    Re: U.S Changes Hostage Policy.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How many years in prison would you give to a family member who tried to ransom back their loved one, got caught and arrested, and then their loved one got beheaded by ISIS?
    probably 5.

    what you're failing to see is, by paying off terrorists who abduct US Nationals, you're decalring there's an economic value to taking Americans hostage. I only suggested they be charged if after they pay a ransom someone else is captured, who's family can't afford the ransom and that hostage killed.

    which is reasonable, considering the fact that negotiating with terrorists means you are making US Foriegn policy decisions without the approval of the US Government, which can undermine our foriegn policy everywhere.
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    Re: U.S Changes Hostage Policy.....

    It's now officially open season on Americans overseas.
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