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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    DailyKos is not a citable source.

    *waits for motherjones next*
    I disagree with you, and of course FOX News hasn't covered this, and they are the only credible source.
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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I disagree with you, and of course FOX News hasn't covered this, and they are the only credible source.
    I find it odd you think Fox is credible. I personally do not.

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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Well gollly gee wiz I guess that since Bush did it then it makes it okay to basically buy terrorists a crate of guns and pay for more innocent people to be kidnapped and or killed by paying ransoms.
    No, it doesn't. And that wasn't the point. USFP in the ME has been beneficial to Islamic extremists. I prefer containment, whereby we don't have these extremists running around. Nobody in my family is stupid enough to travel to places that US policy has generated such hate for Americans. Stop being stupid and you won't be asked to pony up a million to get your uncle back!
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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I find it odd you think Fox is credible. I personally do not.
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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Nobody in my family is stupid enough to travel to places that US policy has generated such hate for Americans.
    I guess you would prefer Bush to Obama then, since Obama has bombed more countries than Bush.

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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I guess you would prefer Bush to Obama then, since Obama has bombed more countries than Bush.
    I'm highly critical of both and have stated repeatedly that Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad did a far better job at containment of Islamic extremists than either Bush or Obama, and that decades of USFP in the region have been disastrous to security and beneficial for extremists. So, either the destabilization of the ME is intended USFP that transcends administrations, or successive incompetent administrations have failed, and neither is encouraging.
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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, it doesn't. And that wasn't the point. USFP in the ME has been beneficial to Islamic extremists. I prefer containment, whereby we don't have these extremists running around. Nobody in my family is stupid enough to travel to places that US policy has generated such hate for Americans. Stop being stupid and you won't be asked to pony up a million to get your uncle back!
    Then you should be against people being allowed to pay ransoms to these terrorists. The terrorists are not using the money for am mortgage payment or car payments. They are not donating that money to the poor. They are not building a giant safe and filling it with money so that they can go swimming it like Scrooge McDuck.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I disagree with you, and of course FOX News hasn't covered this, and they are the only credible source.
    |You got something almost right. They are the MOST credible, not the ONLY credible. Poll: Fox Most Believable; CNN Least Believable - Breitbart

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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Then you should be against people being allowed to pay ransoms to these terrorists. The terrorists are not using the money for am mortgage payment or car payments. They are not donating that money to the poor. They are not building a giant safe and filling it with money so that they can go swimming it like Scrooge McDuck.
    Well, I am, unless it was somebody that I cared about, then I wouldn't give a **** what you or Obama said. That's just how it works.
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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    |You got something almost right. They are the MOST credible, not the ONLY credible. Poll: Fox Most Believable; CNN Least Believable - Breitbart
    A Breitbart poll no less on what people THINK, not what is. And if you tell a lie often enough (fair and balanced) the people will end up believing it.
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