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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
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    : Excellent questions! Why shouldn't the families handle this on their own?How would it work? Would it be handled like a regular kidnapping with a ransom request? Would our government be involved in any way?
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    Ransom is quite a business in certain parts of the world from what I've heard, but you never hear about it here. Maybe it's best to leave it up to the government, I mean, who has better overall law enforcement than us?

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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    Evening my friend *hug*

    Ransom is quite a business in certain parts of the world from what I've heard, but you never hear about it here. Maybe it's best to leave it up to the government, I mean, who has better overall law enforcement than us?
    Greetings, JC.

    How would it be handled by the government? Would BHO or one of his people meet with the family to determine who is making the demand and how much money they want; and are they willing and able to pay it; then he would contact the terrorists to iron out the details if the family could not meet the demands and offer to negotiate a smaller amount if possible; and if the terrorists say "NO DEAL," could he say to the family "sorry, I did the best I could?" If the terrorists should agree to a lesser amount, does he then go back to the family and make the arrangements to get the money sent? I would sure as H*** hope that BHO has enough other problems to handle to get involved in that mess! : If the prisoner is a member of our military, then we do have laws to handle things like this, as you point out, but if not, the family should be able to do it on their own, which calls for a lot of trust in the terrorists, and good luck with that!

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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Terrorist earning potential just skyrocketed. Thanks Barack "Friend to terrorists, murderers, and brutal dictators" Obama.
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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, JC.

    How would it be handled by the government? Would BHO or one of his people meet with the family to determine who is making the demand and how much money they want; and are they willing and able to pay it; then he would contact the terrorists to iron out the details if the family could not meet the demands and offer to negotiate a smaller amount if possible; and if the terrorists say "NO DEAL," could he say to the family "sorry, I did the best I could?" If the terrorists should agree to a lesser amount, does he then go back to the family and make the arrangements to get the money sent? I would sure as H*** hope that BHO has enough other problems to handle to get involved in that mess! : If the prisoner is a member of our military, then we do have laws to handle things like this, as you point out, but if not, the family should be able to do it on their own, which calls for a lot of trust in the terrorists, and good luck with that!
    I don't know, it could get dicey. I'm for leaving it strictly up to law enforcement, including our military.

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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Whatever the law prescribes.
    A cop out. Shocking.

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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    A cop out. Shocking.
    Not at all, you like government when it agrees with you but government is a fickle lover. When government sets policy, it presumably does it for the greater good. Like vaccines, sometimes a small group has to suffer for the greater good--yes, under pain of penalty.

    Negotiating with terrorists is one such long help prohibitions. Since the days of the Barbary Pirates, I believe. No answer that isn't zero would satisfy you so you are left with satisfying yourself.

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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    I don't know, it could get dicey. I'm for leaving it strictly up to law enforcement, including our military.
    I wonder how many hostages were never taken because they knew that we would not negotiate or pay them anything? I'm thinking a great deal of our citizens have been saved because of that.
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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    They then execute Us hostages in a very public manner, meanwhile other countries, including Canada make arrangements to pay a ransom.
    And these other countries are encouraging terrorism as a result by giving terrorists the power to take more hostages and demand cash payouts because they know it will work, which only exacerbates the problem.

    Now consider carefully- a relative working with an aid agency, kidnapped, threatened with execution, and you know they will. Would you sit back and what else would you do?
    That's a very difficult decision for anyone who is unfortunately put in that position obviously. Human nature makes us want to rescue the hostage, but this is not a question of what you would do in that position. People who write this policy need to consider the actual consequences of allowing for the paying of terrorists in exchange for hostages, because legalizing doing so is only going to put more people in that position.
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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    And these other countries are encouraging terrorism as a result by giving terrorists the power to take more hostages and demand cash payouts because they know it will work, which only exacerbates the problem.



    That's a very difficult decision for anyone who is unfortunately put in that position obviously. Human nature makes us want to rescue the hostage, but this is not a question of what you would do in that position. People who write this policy need to consider the actual consequences of allowing for the paying of terrorists in exchange for hostages, because legalizing doing so is only going to put more people in that position.
    So the issue is some countries do pay ransom – it may be thru the host Govt paying and favor for favor changes hands. To the Italian and others that also pay.
    To Canada who used the first example to free one of our Diplomats.
    Then the US traded the GITMO 5 for the US Soldier.

    Paying is not the big problem, it is people in areas where most should not be.
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    Re: White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    So the issue is some countries do pay ransom – it may be thru the host Govt paying and favor for favor changes hands. To the Italian and others that also pay.
    To Canada who used the first example to free one of our Diplomats.
    Then the US traded the GITMO 5 for the US Soldier.

    Paying is not the big problem, it is people in areas where most should not be.
    Your reference to Canada here is unclear. Canada did help free Americans from the Iranian Embassy but there was no money involved. Canada to the Rescue | TIME.com

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