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    Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Now you know why the state wanted this censored. Still, he probably should have been buckled in.


    Autopsy of Freddie Gray shows 'high-energy' blow - Baltimore Sun

    june 23 2015
    Freddie Gray suffered a single "high-energy injury" to his neck and spine most likely caused when the police van in which he was riding suddenly decelerated, according to a copy of the autopsy report obtained by The Baltimore Sun.

    The state medical examiner's office concluded that Gray's death could not be ruled an accident, and was instead a homicide, because officers failed to follow safety procedures "through acts of omission."

    Though Gray was loaded into the van on his belly, the medical examiner surmised that he may have gotten to his feet and was thrown into the wall during an abrupt change in direction. He was not belted in, but his wrists and ankles were shackled, making him "at risk for an unsupported fall during acceleration or deceleration of the van." The medical examiner compared Gray's injury to those seen in shallow-water diving incidents.

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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    So this is what happened? Looks like Freddy's family is going to be rich and some police officers are going to jail.

    Gray is not the first person to come out of a Baltimore police wagon with serious injuries.

    Relatives of Dondi Johnson Sr., who was left a paraplegic after a 2005 police van ride, won a $7.4 million verdict against police officers. A year earlier, Jeffrey Alston was awarded $39 million by a jury after he became paralyzed from the neck down as the result of a van ride. Others have also received payouts after filing lawsuits.

    For some, such injuries have been inflicted by what is known as a "rough ride" an "unsanctioned technique" in which police vans are driven to cause "injury or pain" to unbuckled, handcuffed detainees, former city police officer Charles J. Key testified as an expert five years ago in a lawsuit over Johnson's subsequent death.
    Freddie Gray not the first to come out of Baltimore police van with serious injuries - Baltimore Sun
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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    So this is what happened? Looks like Freddy's family is going to be rich and some police officers are going to jail.



    Freddie Gray not the first to come out of Baltimore police van with serious injuries - Baltimore Sun
    The other prisoner in the back of the van claimed that it was not a " rough ride ".

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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    So this is what happened? Looks like Freddy's family is going to be rich and some police officers are going to jail.



    Freddie Gray not the first to come out of Baltimore police van with serious injuries - Baltimore Sun
    Baltimore caves on the lawsuits since they know the jury will be all black. If this case gets moved out of baltimore, the cops might win.

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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The other prisoner in the back of the van claimed that it was not a " rough ride ".
    The other prisoner, Donta Allen, said the police report did not accurately portray his comments. He said he heard a few seconds of soft banging and that was it.

    I am sure the police got him to word things just the way they wanted while they had him there at the station. OR upon hearing what happened, Mr. Allen reinterpreted what he heard. I don't think the defense is going to want to use Mr. Allen as the story he has been telling the media doesn't paint the best picture for the accused.

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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    The other prisoner, Donta Allen, said the police report did not accurately portray his comments. He said he heard a few seconds of soft banging and that was it.

    I am sure the police got him to word things just the way they wanted while they had him there at the station. OR upon hearing what happened, Mr. Allen reinterpreted what he heard. I don't think the defense is going to want to use Mr. Allen as the story he has been telling the media doesn't paint the best picture for the accused.
    He also said the ride was not violent which will make it hard to convict the driver of deliberately driving hard to hurt mister gray. The case against the other 5 defendants is now very weak too. They may all skate.

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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

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    He also said the ride was not violent which will make it hard to convict the driver of deliberately driving hard to hurt mister gray. The case against the other 5 defendants is now very weak too. They may all skate.
    If the ride was not rough then how did Freddy get an 80% severed neck while in police custody?

    Freddie Gray suffered a single "high-energy injury" to his neck and spine — most likely caused when the police van in which he was riding suddenly decelerated

    The medical examiner compared Gray's injury to those seen in shallow-water diving incidents.
    To me suddenly decelerated means slamming on the brakes.

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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by TextDriversKill View Post
    He also said the ride was not violent which will make it hard to convict the driver of deliberately driving hard to hurt mister gray. The case against the other 5 defendants is now very weak too. They may all skate.
    But that guy didn't get on until the third stop so he wouldn't know what kind of ride Gray had been receiving.

    And when they arrived at the prisoner intake Allen states he heard a female officer say "Well, you know, we gave him a run for his money -- he's not breathing."

    I don't know whether he is telling the truth but I doubt the defense is going to want to introduce anything this guy said because that will just open the door to rest of the stuff he said.

    It will be interesting to see play out.

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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    If the ride was not rough then how did Freddy get an 80% severed neck while in police custody?

    To me suddenly decelerated means slamming on the brakes.
    The driver will say a kid ran in my path. It the van has dash cam, he'll have to modify that to something like "I heard a real loud noise and hit the brakes". Who's to say otherwise?

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