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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And?
    1. That doesn't refute anything I have said.
    2. Homicide doesn't mean criminal. Or didn't you know that?
    Homicide: the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another. Murder.

    It sounds criminal to me.
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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Homicide: the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another. Murder.

    It sounds criminal to me.


    Wrong.





    You really should have used a search like the following.

    Last edited by Excon; 06-25-15 at 02:56 PM.
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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Expert disagrees with 'homicide' conclusion in Gray's death

    ... Asked about the Maryland medical examiner's conclusion that Freddie Gray's death from injuries sustained in police custody was a homicide, Dr. Vincent DiMaio, one of the nation's leading forensic pathologists, said: "I'd have to respectfully disagree, and I know a number of other medical examiners do. It would be more appropriate to have classified this case as either an accident or 'undetermined,' because the way it's being called a homicide is, in a way, something that a jury has to decide. A medical examiner is not a lawyer, is not a jury. … They're saying [Gray's death] was not an unforeseen event. That's something for a jury to decide, not the doctor to decide."


    Expert disagrees with ‘homicide’ conclusion in Gray's death - Baltimore Sun

    Of course he does. It was obvious from what she stated.
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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Murder and manslaughter. Is either one non-criminal?¿
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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    But that guy didn't get on until the third stop so he wouldn't know what kind of ride Gray had been receiving.

    And when they arrived at the prisoner intake Allen states he heard a female officer say "Well, you know, we gave him a run for his money -- he's not breathing."

    I don't know whether he is telling the truth but I doubt the defense is going to want to introduce anything this guy said because that will just open the door to rest of the stuff he said.

    It will be interesting to see play out.
    The part that bothers me about this case, Gray asked for medical help repeatedly. I don't think LE is trained to triage a injury or medical condition and they should have taken him to the hospital. We also don't know when the spine was severed and the amount of suffering he did before he became unconscious, which is a state of shock. I would speculate he suffered like a animal if the spine was severed in the beginning of the 40 minute van ride. It was as if they did not care. Freddie Gray was arrested for a pocket knife, he did not open or draw and treated like garbage plus lost his life, but the shooter in South Carolina, who viciously murdered people in a church is being treated like a human being.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...420-story.html

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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Homicide: the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another. Murder.

    It sounds criminal to me.
    A medical examiner doesn't make the determination of what is and is not lawful.

    Anyone with half a brain can figure that out.

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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Murder and manslaughter. Is either one non-criminal?¿

    The argument was over you making a false definitive statement in regards to me pointing out that the designation homicide (in context of what we are speaking about | the Autopsy report) doesn't mean criminal.
    You were simply wrong and wrong for challenging what I said.
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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    Gray asked for medical help repeatedly.
    Wut? How many times?


    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    We also don't know when the spine was severed
    Wut? The spine was severed? You really need to read the autopsy report.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    and the amount of suffering he did before he became unconscious, which is a state of shock.
    Wut? What suffering are you talking about.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    I would speculate he suffered like a animal if the spine was severed in the beginning of the 40 minute van ride. It was as if they did not care. Freddie Gray was arrested for a pocket knife, he did not open or draw and treated like garbage plus lost his life, but the shooter in South Carolina, who viciously murdered people in a church is being treated like a human being.
    All hyperbolic biased based nonsense.

    And stop comparing unlike circumstances.




    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    The part that bothers me about this case,
    You seem to be bothered by a lot of make believe.
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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    The argument was over you making a false definitive statement in regards to me pointing out that the designation homicide (in context of what we are speaking about | the Autopsy report) doesn't mean criminal.
    You were simply wrong and wrong for challenging what I said.
    Homicide in the autopsy report makes me think of foul play.

    What do you think Watson?

    Did Mr. Gray commit suicide in the van?
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    Re: Freddie Gray autopsy report leaked. Says he fell when the van stopped.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Yeah, if you're in the back of a van and it brakes hard, that's a guaranteed death sentence unless you're wearing a seatbelt. That's why school busses all have seat belts....kids would be dropping like flies
    School buses don't handcuff you, leaving you unable to brace or protect yourself, and then deliberately slam the brakes to throw you around.

    The police took deliberate action which caused him to die.
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