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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Even if Obama wants to go along with those unreasonable demands, there are still five more powerful nations that will have to agree as well. Were he out there on his own, he just might give in, but he still can't make a unilateral agreement.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Iran is clearly being irrational here. If they want an end to sanctions, the responsible position is to halt nuclear development.



    Which is why the US/EU should take a stance against all nuclear arsenals in the region.
    Frankly, I think Iran is acting quite rationally. They are pursuing what they see as in their national interest.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Frankly, I think Iran is acting quite rationally. They are pursuing what they see as in their national interest.
    The actions of the government are resulting in sanctions against the country, which is hurting their economic development and therefore obviously not in their national interest. Whether or not they are using development of nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, they are the leading state sponsor of terrorism, and I don't think they deserve to be given the benefit of the doubt for that reason.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Even if Obama wants to go along with those unreasonable demands, there are still five more powerful nations that will have to agree as well. Were he out there on his own, he just might give in, but he still can't make a unilateral agreement.
    Well we know where Russia and China stands, huh?

    But now.....who would be these so called other POWERFUL nations?

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

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    no agenda by that source [/sarcasm]
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well we know where Russia and China stands, huh?

    But now.....who would be these so called other POWERFUL nations?
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    Britain, France, Germany, China, Russia and the United States - want Iran to commit to a verifiable halt of at least 10 years on sensitive nuclear development work as part of a landmark atomic deal they aim to reach by June 30.
    So, unless their position is being misrepresented, those six nations, any one of which could destroy present day Iran, want a verifiable halt on sensitive nuclear development.

    And while the Republicans like to portray Obama as weak and wussy in the arena of foreign affairs, his policies are the same as those of his predecessor. There is no credible evidence that he wants to cave in to Iran's demands. Even if he did, the other five nations would be unlikely to go along.

    So, the idea that Obama is going to give away the farm to Iran is just election rhetoric, IMO.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    According to the OP:



    So, unless their position is being misrepresented, those six nations, any one of which could destroy present day Iran, want a verifiable halt on sensitive nuclear development.

    And while the Republicans like to portray Obama as weak and wussy in the arena of foreign affairs, his policies are the same as those of his predecessor. There is no credible evidence that he wants to cave in to Iran's demands. Even if he did, the other five nations would be unlikely to go along.

    So, the idea that Obama is going to give away the farm to Iran is just election rhetoric, IMO.


    Post 4 and also what DS started the OP with. Brings the perspective out into the open. Oh and I doubt the one from the NY Times is a Republican.

    Yes BO is weak and a wussy with Foreign Affairs. Seems his predecessor knew a bit more about implementation. When BO's own people admit to failures in policy, and then you hear about the reset for different policies. Then a pivot.....followed by another reset. This is not carrying the ball from who has come before him. No is seen as any success.

    Also, I would note those who use BO's own words and what he has told others. Which it is logical to start with what the Man said.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Post 4 and also what DS started the OP with. Brings the perspective out into the open. Oh and I doubt the one from the NY Times is a Republican.

    Yes BO is weak and a wussy with Foreign Affairs. Seems his predecessor knew a bit more about implementation. When BO's own people admit to failures in policy, and then you hear about the reset for different policies. Then a pivot.....followed by another reset. This is not carrying the ball from who has come before him. No is seen as any success.

    Also, I would note those who use BO's own words and what he has told others. Which it is logical to start with what the Man said.
    No foreign policy failure could possibly equal that of having invaded Iraq in the first place, but then, Obama's record hasn't been stellar either.

    But, what has he said that leads us to believe that he's in favor of caving in to Iran's demands?
    And, even if he were, how is he going to get the other five to go along?

    No, I still think the specter of a nuclear armed Iran is just election rhetoric. Maybe the Iranians will prove me wrong. I hope not, but let's see what is actually in any agreement that is finalized first, then judge whether anyone has given away the ranch.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No foreign policy failure could possibly equal that of having invaded Iraq in the first place, but then, Obama's record hasn't been stellar either.

    But, what has he said that leads us to believe that he's in favor of caving in to Iran's demands?
    And, even if he were, how is he going to get the other five to go along?

    No, I still think the specter of a nuclear armed Iran is just election rhetoric. Maybe the Iranians will prove me wrong. I hope not, but let's see what is actually in any agreement that is finalized first, then judge whether anyone has given away the ranch.

    In post 4 they pointed out some things he said then pointed out what the realities were. Moreover didn't Russia's Lavrov come out and say they were fine with all the Sanctions coming off, already?

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