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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Correct, and yet we get statements like this:



    Which may be true, but he still can't make a unilateral agreement.

    Then we get statements like this.



    Iran hardens stance on nuclear deal as deadline nears.....


    Iran has hardened its stance less than a week before the deadline for a nuclear deal, with its top leader rejecting a long-term freeze on nuclear research as a constitutional body on Wednesday approved a law banning access to military sites and scientists.

    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei also insisted that Iran will only sign a deal if international sanctions are lifted first, which could further complicate the negotiations. The new law calls for all sanctions to be lifted the first day of any agreement's implementation.

    Iran's constitutional watchdog, known as the Guardian Council, ratified the legislation banning access to military sites and scientists, making it binding law, according to state TV. The bill would still allow for international inspections of Iranian nuclear sites within the framework of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty......snip~

    Iran hardens stance on nuclear deal as deadline nears

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    This is what happens when the left gets mugged by reality.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This is what happens when the left gets mugged by reality.
    Heya USC. I like the part after Khamenei says only if sanctions are removed first. Which then the lib writer says......COULD further complicate things.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya USC. I like the part after Khamenei says only if sanctions are removed first. Which then the lib writer says......COULD further complicate things.
    They are chanting death to america yet again (domestic consumption you see) and are now receiving billions after sanctions were lifted.

    So they have more money, more power, and are still going to get nukes just as soon as they please.

    Man our smart diplomacy really is smart.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    They are chanting death to america yet again (domestic consumption you see) and are now receiving billions after sanctions were lifted.

    So they have more money, more power, and are still going to get nukes just as soon as they please.

    Man our smart diplomacy really is smart.


    It was once "smart power" but the "power" in the equation went to **** at Benghazi.

    While Obama aims at the flag of the Confederate States of America for his goons to hate, his new friends in Tehran chant "death to America" and that's OK. It came up in conversation yesterday, and a woman I don't know said "they [the US] needs to learn they aren't kings of the world anymore".

    That, I would suggest, is more poignant and insightful a comment you or I could ever make.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    It was once "smart power" but the "power" in the equation went to **** at Benghazi.

    While Obama aims at the flag of the Confederate States of America for his goons to hate, his new friends in Tehran chant "death to America" and that's OK. It came up in conversation yesterday, and a woman I don't know said "they [the US] needs to learn they aren't kings of the world anymore".

    That, I would suggest, is more poignant and insightful a comment you or I could ever make.
    I dont know that we ever were kings of the world. Our position was largely based on who was destroyed in WW2 and our enormous economy.
    Still, like every nation I expect us to exert our power as it best suits us.

    Dont confuse the US under Obama with the US.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Former Advisers [and dubya advisors] Caution Obama on Iran Nuclear Talks
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/wo...alks.html?_r=0
    ... At the core of the letter are what Mr. Einhorn, now at the Brookings Institution, called “required elements that have not yet been achieved.” He said that all the signatories supported a negotiated settlement, and “there is no poison pill here” intended to undercut the chance of an agreement.
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    The letter gets to the heart of some of those areas, all of which are still under negotiation, and in some cases bitter dispute.
    For example, the negotiations that ended in April resulted in vague statements about how inspections would work, beyond an understanding that Iran would sign an International Atomic Energy Agency convention that gives inspectors broad rights to investigate suspicious sites. But Ayatollah Khamenei, along with his commanders, immediately ruled out allowing foreigners to visit military sites.

    The letter, referring to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, said inspections “must include military (including IRGC) and other sensitive facilities. Iran must not be able to deny or delay timely access to any site anywhere in the country.”

    Similarly, while Mr. Kerry said last week that it was not necessary to make Iran account for evidence of past effort to work on weapons designs, because the United States and its allies already had “absolute knowledge” of those activities, the former advisers view the long-sought answers to those questions as vital.

    The inspectors, they write, must be able “to take samples, to interview scientists and government officials, to inspect sites, and to review and copy documents as required for their investigation of Iran’s past and any ongoing nuclear weaponization activities.” The letter adds, “This work needs to be accomplished before any significant sanctions relief.”

    On another delicate issue in the talks, the letter calls for “strict limits on advanced centrifuge R&D, testing, and deployment in the first 10 years,” and for measures to prevent “rapid technical upgrade” when those limits expire. Some limits were negotiated in April, but the details remain to be resolved.

    Perhaps the hardest part from an Iranian perspective is the insistence in the letter that the United States publicly declare — with congressional assent — that even after the expiration of the agreement Iran will not be permitted to possess enough nuclear fuel to make a single weapon. ...
    now we have politicos from both countries chiming in with their opinions about any negotiated agreement
    notice our guys did not find immediate end of sanctions worth mentioning. apparently, that is something to be conceded to iran

    kerry has already given up on obtaining information about iran's past nuclear development programs. so, when these former advisors insist they are not penning a poison pill recommendation, they obviously are by insisting on access to iran's prior nuclear program data as a condition they believe we should fall on our sword to accomplish
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont know that we ever were kings of the world. Our position was largely based on who was destroyed in WW2 and our enormous economy.
    Still, like every nation I expect us to exert our power as it best suits us.

    Dont confuse the US under Obama with the US.
    Excellent point. In context the quote was significant to me in that a likely low information voter in her 60's at least would see the decline in the short time Obama has been there. The frightening part is that US foreign policy now was shaped in part by her majesty. We are watching terror grow in the world while the Democrats play politics with it. As I have said before, under the "owe" America's friends are asking what "friend" means now
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Excellent point. In context the quote was significant to me in that a likely low information voter in her 60's at least would see the decline in the short time Obama has been there. The frightening part is that US foreign policy now was shaped in part by her majesty. We are watching terror grow in the world while the Democrats play politics with it. As I have said before, under the "owe" America's friends are asking what "friend" means now
    I can't blame you for asking.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei rules out freezing sensitive nuclear work for long period

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Then we get statements like this.



    Iran hardens stance on nuclear deal as deadline nears.....


    Iran has hardened its stance less than a week before the deadline for a nuclear deal, with its top leader rejecting a long-term freeze on nuclear research as a constitutional body on Wednesday approved a law banning access to military sites and scientists.

    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei also insisted that Iran will only sign a deal if international sanctions are lifted first, which could further complicate the negotiations. The new law calls for all sanctions to be lifted the first day of any agreement's implementation.

    Iran's constitutional watchdog, known as the Guardian Council, ratified the legislation banning access to military sites and scientists, making it binding law, according to state TV. The bill would still allow for international inspections of Iranian nuclear sites within the framework of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty......snip~

    Iran hardens stance on nuclear deal as deadline nears
    Even if Obama wants to go along with those unreasonable demands, there are still five more powerful nations that will have to agree as well. Were he out there on his own, he just might give in, but he still can't make a unilateral agreement.
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