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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Intelligence agencies do not assess the success or failure of policies.

    Far from kowtowing to policymakers, there is sometimes a strong impulse on the part of intelligence officers to show that a policy or decision is misguided or wrong, to poke an analytical finger in the policy eye. Policymakers know this and understandably
    resent it. To protect the independence of the analyst while keeping such impulses in check is one of the toughest jobs of intelligence agency managers. In this connection the policymaker sometimes has the sense that the CIA
    is attempting, at least by inference, to "grade" his performance. Further, the policymaker is often suspicious that when the CIA's analysis suggests his policy is failing or in difficulty, these conclusions are widely circulated by the Agency,
    with malice, for use as ammunition by critics of the policy in the Executive Branch, in Congress, or among the public. These suspicions are magnified by leaks that pit the policymaker against CIA in a contest for political advantage.

    http://media.nara.gov/dc-metro/rg-26...x-10-115-1.pdf
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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

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    Well there you have it then. That was always my point!
    Then you have no point. The dynamics of warfare are universal and eternal.
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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

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    Far from kowtowing to policymakers, there is sometimes a strong impulse on the part of intelligence officers to show that a policy or decision is misguided or wrong, to poke an analytical finger in the policy eye. Policymakers know this and understandably
    resent it. To protect the independence of the analyst while keeping such impulses in check is one of the toughest jobs of intelligence agency managers. In this connection the policymaker sometimes has the sense that the CIA
    is attempting, at least by inference, to "grade" his performance. Further, the policymaker is often suspicious that when the CIA's analysis suggests his policy is failing or in difficulty, these conclusions are widely circulated by the Agency,
    with malice, for use as ammunition by critics of the policy in the Executive Branch, in Congress, or among the public. These suspicions are magnified by leaks that pit the policymaker against CIA in a contest for political advantage.

    http://media.nara.gov/dc-metro/rg-26...x-10-115-1.pdf
    Thus is real life lived. Readers are free to draw whatever inferences they wish.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Thus is real life lived. Readers are free to draw whatever inferences they wish.
    The implication is that intelligence agencies do indeed assess the success or failure of policies, according to Robert Gates, who I would venture has much greater standing and understanding.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    The implication is that intelligence agencies do indeed assess the success or failure of policies, according to Robert Gates, who I would venture has much greater standing and understanding.
    You'll notice Gates is at pains to state there is never an explicit assessment, regardless of the implications of the intelligence analysis. His position is exactly mine.
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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You'll notice Gates is at pains to state there is never an explicit assessment, regardless of the implications of the intelligence analysis. His position is exactly mine.
    Oh, so your argument now is that analysts poke holes in policy without assessment of the policy. Sure, Dr Ryan.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Oh, so your argument now is that analysts poke holes in policy without assessment of the policy. Sure, Dr Ryan.

    Analysts provide intelligence analysis. Policy makers are free to draw whatever conclusions they wish.
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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Twice as many terrorist threats come from domestic right-wing groups than from Islam-inspired groups.

    But we all knew that, right?

    Study: Right-wing terrorism has killed 48 people in the US since 2001 - Vox

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Analysts provide intelligence analysis. Policy makers are free to draw whatever conclusions they wish.
    Non-sequitur, this has no impact upon the proof provided by Robert Gates that your argument is complete bullchit.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    Twice as many terrorist threats come from domestic right-wing groups than from Islam-inspired groups.

    But we all knew that, right?

    Study: Right-wing terrorism has killed 48 people in the US since 2001 - Vox
    Just more politics. You'll notice the authors timed their study to exclude 9/11.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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