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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    If we never had gotten involved in the ME, the USSR would have and we would be sitting in the USSR's shoes right now. That's my whole point. People are very poorly educated about history and don't understand the dynamics of the Cold War.

    Mornin' Capster. Not many know that Reagans ME policy is what helped win the cold war and broke the Russians back.





    How Reagan’s Mideast Policy Won the Cold War.....

    Ronald Reagan’s centenary coincides with the unraveling of Ronald Reagan’s Middle East. The president born February 6, 1911, is most associated with the dramatic end of the Cold War in Europe. But you can make a powerful case that the Cold War was won — not in Europe — but in the Middle East.

    Four events were decisive. 1. The Reagan administration cemented Egypt, the largest and most important Arab country, into the U.S. alliance system. 2. Reagan oversaw the weakening of the Soviet’s strongest Arab ally, Iraq. 3. Middle East events forced the Soviet Union toward an (ultimately doomed) reconstruction of its economy. 4. Then the final shove: In 1985, the Reagan administration persuaded Saudi Arabia to increase oil production.

    The Reagan administration’s Middle East policy broke the Soviet empire. But no political achievement lasts forever.....snip~

    How Reagan’s Mideast Policy Won the Cold War

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    threat level red - the highest we have ever experienced
    US Conservative/OP, please report to the DC Naval Yard and discuss this thread topic
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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Are you under the impression that a member of the House of Representatives is incapable of hyperbole? ISIS is nowhere near the international war capabilities of Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, or the British Empire.


    OK

    But I failed to note when Germany or Japan ever halted the entire united states transportation system for five days, destroy the twin towers, hit the Pentagon and kill over 3,000 people in a single day.

    But if the Obama/Hilary brain trust says there is no threat, then absolutely there is no threat, and everyone kept their plan.

    You drink way too much cool aid. The United States will be hit again, and soon under the current leadership.
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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    So your premise is that not only the intelligence committee, but the FBI (both of which know more than you) are pretending here.

    There is hyperbole involved here-but its from you.
    We are at that elevated threat level because as the same intelligence agencies pointed out in a 2006 paper, Bush's policies had caused an increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe, something you like to ignore!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I certainly agree that far too many are "poorly educated about history" but your statements fail to support your point in regards to ignorance about the West's actions in the Middle East during the 20th Century.
    The actions of the US today are a direct result of the actions during the cold war. We are where we are today in the ME because of the Cold War.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    The actions of the US today are a direct result of the actions during the cold war. We are where we are today in the ME because of the Cold War.
    Well sure, if using our CIA in 1953 to sabotage the Iranian government to prevent the nationalization of their oil which would have been a benefit to the Iranians instead of Britain, was part of the "Cold War", then I suppose you've a point.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    When sharks target innocent civilians to blow them to bits, get back to me.
    Does this mean you embrace the 1% doctrine that no matter how small the actual threat, no matter how infrequently in reality the threat materializes, the government should spend oodles of $ and waste the US Constitution going through the motions of protecting people?

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Woodrow Wilson was our most racist post-Civil War President and much else besides. That was a very different time and a very different situation.
    It doesn't matter if Wilson was a cross dresser. It doesn't matter, and I certainly don't care if he was a racist. I am not a fan of his.

    The point is that he and every other person to occupy the White House understood that the public perception must be managed and massaged.

    The point is that he hired Edward Bernays into the government for the SOLE purpose of managing "public relations", what we call today PR or spin.

    The point is the government officials have a vested interest in managing the public perception and act to achieve that.

    If you deny that simple and obvious point, you are being disingenuous.

    In a much more refined manner, the government today practices just what Wilson did. It's human nature.

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We are at that elevated threat level because as the same intelligence agencies pointed out in a 2006 paper, Bush's policies had caused an increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe, something you like to ignore!

    omg

    what 6 years after, and you are still blaming Bush?

    as Bob Seger wrote "turn the page"
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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    omg

    what 6 years after, and you are still blaming Bush?

    as Bob Seger wrote "turn the page"
    Me? That was a 2006 NIE in which a consensus amongst our intelligence agencies blamed Bush. Have you been ignoring my continual complaints of Obama's military interventions in the ME. Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad all did a better job at containing Islamic extremism then either Bush or Obama. I'm no partisan, I acknowledge the fault of both parties!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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