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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    14th year, are you not including the many decades since the end of WW2 that we have been involved in the ME. That is the problem with the majority of isolationists and anti-war. They tend to be part of the younger generation who are very badly educated in history. We have been involved in the Middle East since, and arguably, before WW2. They act as if the whole problem of ME terrorism just started after the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, and that is how you can tell they are ignorant about history, and possibly, just totally ignorant anyway.
    Your point is correct, but the word you choose, "involved" is painting with a very broad brush. Yes, by all means we have been involved in the ME for many decades.

    However, as the USS Liberty demonstrated, we were just on the sidelines, if you know what I mean. Yes, we sold the Shah our fine F-14s and many Bell helicopters. Yes, we armed Saddam and loaned him huge amounts of money, back when he was our fair-haired son over there. Yes, our CIA has been involved like, forever over there.

    But the proverbial boots on the ground is what I'm talking about. We fought the Russians by proxy in Afghanistan, but it wasn't until 9/11 that we actually invaded the ME, even though there were no Afghanis listed amongst the fictitious hijackers.

    Hoping you get the point about what history tells us...

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

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    So its not just one member of the committee, which further suggests a trend.

    People with access the average citizen does not have are quite worried, and the forums lefties (with no special insight) have blanket dismissed the threat.

    Life under the Obama years.

    You didn't think it would change did you? They always look to downplay it. Like I said it doesn't matter how many come out and give a warning.

    Only way they start truly worrying about it is, when it comes to their area and makes an impact. After the carnage.....you usually wont see those who always were out dismissing it.

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    A bit too tin foil hat for me.
    Ike warning about the inclination of the military industrial complex to be politically invested in advancing that sector of our economy is found by you to be to a foil hat conspiracy

    but you are willing to believe that we are now confronted with a threat that is the HIGHEST our nation has EVER faced

    any remaining vestiges of credibility within your posts has now vanished
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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Do you know why we are at the highest threat level we have been at since the cold war? Because the isolationist and anti-war nimrods have been listened too. We told all of you, that if we were to leave the ME that we would be fighting them here instead of there. well, we are about to see the reality of this soon. With as pourous as our boarders are to our south, and the growing number of enemies through south and central America rise due to the newly perceived American weakness, It is only a matter of time that they start infiltrating us from the south and imbed themselves into our communities. Thanks Anti-war and isolationist movement.
    Anti-interventionism? We've been interfering continually. This is a result of the aggressive, imperial interventionism we've engaged in for decades.

    Maybe if we truely engaged in non-intetventionist policies we wouldn't be so deep in the muck. Anti-war? HAHA, yeah right. That's just ridiculous.
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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    When this began, many preferred to call it The Long War and some still do. We have several decades to go.
    I call it forever war since that's what it is. Several decades? Then war is not the answer. Just making things worse, as we can see from this War on Terror.
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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

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    House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Faced In This Country’

    WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) — The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee warns that America is dealing with “the highest threat level we have ever faced in this country.” Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., told CBS’ “Face the Nation” on Sunday that the threat is coming from the radicalization of young people and foreign fighters heading to Iraq and Syria to join terror groups.

    “They’re very good at communicating through separate avenues where it’s very difficult to track,” Nunes said. “That’s why when you get a young person who is willing to get into these chat rooms, go on the Internet and get radicalized, it’s something we are not only unprepared [for], we are also not used to it in this country.”
    So we're now at Elmo level then?

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Ike warning about the inclination of the military industrial complex to be politically invested in advancing that sector of our economy is found by you to be to a foil hat conspiracy

    but you are willing to believe that we are now confronted with a threat that is the HIGHEST our nation has EVER faced

    any remaining vestiges of credibility within your posts has now vanished

    Mornin JB. Well, what they mean by that it is Higher than ever before. The reason is that, before......There was only AQ to worry about. Now there is AQ, Khorasan, Daesh, Ansar Al Sharia, and more pressing is the influence by Daesh to get others to go out and commit acts in their Name and for their Caliphate. Which has now entered its 2nd year.

    So it is a bit higher than it was with just worrying about AQ.

    Wouldn't you say that's a given?

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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This is the fruit of nearly 7 years of "smart" diplomacy.

    A weak president has allowed terror to flourish and in fact ceded a nation to the most violent terrorists in modern history. In Afghanistan he is doing the same, as AQ surrounds cities and Iran pours in more, licking their chops for the last Americans to leave-Obama has let them know its theirs.

    China and Russia are emboldened. And "JV" isis continues to grow, striking already in the US, and now subjecting Americans to the greatest threat level we have ever faced from terrorists.

    This is what hope and change looks like folks.
    No, this is the fruit of failed USFP in the Middle East for decades. There's plenty of blame to go around, but I suppose it's easier for you to blame it all on Obama.
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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Ike warning about the inclination of the military industrial complex to be politically invested in advancing that sector of our economy is found by you to be to a foil hat conspiracy

    but you are willing to believe that we are now confronted with a threat that is the HIGHEST our nation has EVER faced

    any remaining vestiges of credibility within your posts has now vanished
    He also talked more candidly and openly about the MIC in a post presidential interview in which he elaborated on his concerns of what he saw grow out of WW11. He basically was concerned then that the MIC was too big to fail. It was no conspiracy theory, but a well articulated concern by a man who knew and understood what he was talking about.

    Big money behind war: the military-industrial complex
    More than 50 years after President Eisenhower's warning, Americans find themselves in perpetual war.
    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...026736533.html

    The new military-industrial complex is fuelled by a conveniently ambiguous and unseen enemy: the terrorist. Former President George W Bush and his aides insisted on calling counter-terrorism efforts a "war". This concerted effort by leaders like former Vice President Dick Cheney (himself the former CEO of defence-contractor Halliburton) was not some empty rhetorical exercise. Not only would a war maximise the inherent powers of the president, but it would maximise the budgets for military and homeland agencies.

    This new coalition of companies, agencies, and lobbyists dwarfs the system known by Eisenhower when he warned Americans to "guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence… by the military-industrial complex". Ironically, it has had some of its best days under President Barack Obama who has radically expanded drone attacks and claimed that he alone determines what a war is for the purposes of consulting Congress.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle37361.htm
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    Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    14th year, are you not including the many decades since the end of WW2 that we have been involved in the ME. That is the problem with the majority of isolationists and anti-war. They tend to be part of the younger generation who are very badly educated in history. We have been involved in the Middle East since, and arguably, before WW2. They act as if the whole problem of ME terrorism just started after the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, and that is how you can tell they are ignorant about history, and possibly, just totally ignorant anyway.
    Not really. The majority of Ron Paul supporters were a young crowd who learned very clearly from him that our troubles with terrorism stemmed from the CIA's overthrow of the Iranian government in 1953. A co-effort with Britain to prevent Iran from nationalizing their oil industry and making Iranians the beneficiary of this relatively newfound wealth of natural resource. You may not have paid attention to the young supporters of Paul, or their placards that pointed out Reagan's support of the Mujahhideen in Afghanistan which morphed into the Taliban that we might be able to then fight decades latter. And his support of Iraq in its war against Iran. They were all too aware of Bush 1's instigation of Hussein's invasion of Kuwait and Clinton's bombing raids on Baghdad. The youth are most certainly not any more ignorant of history then the old folks that have learned no lessons and still support one war after the other in what is decades of failed policy in the Middle East. But their is an ulterior motive to the spoken.

    People say we're not fighting for oil. Of course we are. They talk about America's national interest. What the hell do you think they're talking about? We're not there for figs.

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