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    Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Faced with a shortage of U.S. Navy ships, the Marine Corps is exploring a plan to deploy its forces aboard foreign vessels to ensure they can respond quickly to global crises around Europe and western Africa. The initiative is a stopgap way to deploy Marines aboard ships overseas until more American vessels are available, said Brig. Gen. Norman Cooling, deputy commander, U.S. Marine Corps Forces Europe and Africa.

    The Marines will be able to respond quickly to evacuate embassies or protect U.S. property and citizens, a need highlighted by the 2012 attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador. "There's no substitute for U.S. amphibious" vessels, Cooling said. "We're looking at other options" in the meantime, he added.



    Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    The world is on fire and the Chump in Chief has shrunk the military budget to the point that our own Marines have to hitch rides with the Euros. Terror flourishes, Moscow and Beijing are emboldened-and we are stuck this way for at least the next 13 years thanks to President weaksauce.

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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Faced with a shortage of U.S. Navy ships, the Marine Corps is exploring a plan to deploy its forces aboard foreign vessels to ensure they can respond quickly to global crises around Europe and western Africa. The initiative is a stopgap way to deploy Marines aboard ships overseas until more American vessels are available, said Brig. Gen. Norman Cooling, deputy commander, U.S. Marine Corps Forces Europe and Africa.

    The Marines will be able to respond quickly to evacuate embassies or protect U.S. property and citizens, a need highlighted by the 2012 attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador. "There's no substitute for U.S. amphibious" vessels, Cooling said. "We're looking at other options" in the meantime, he added.



    Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    The world is on fire and the Chump in Chief has shrunk the military budget to the point that our own Marines have to hitch rides with the Euros. Terror flourishes, Moscow and Beijing are emboldened-and we are stuck this way for at least the next 13 years thanks to President weaksauce.

    I don't really see what the problem is? The US, UK, France etc have been sharing technology, secrets, Bases, air strips etc for years now. In fact a lot of US soldiers that landed on the beaches in Normandy were transported by British landing craft, boats etc.
    Makes sense to me that we use each other's resources especially in a time of a major global crisis.
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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    The world is on fire, and so many of them have been started by our drones and missiles. By provoking Russia, we seem to like those fires burning.

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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Faced with a shortage of U.S. Navy ships, the Marine Corps is exploring a plan to deploy its forces aboard foreign vessels to ensure they can respond quickly to global crises around Europe and western Africa. The initiative is a stopgap way to deploy Marines aboard ships overseas until more American vessels are available, said Brig. Gen. Norman Cooling, deputy commander, U.S. Marine Corps Forces Europe and Africa.

    The Marines will be able to respond quickly to evacuate embassies or protect U.S. property and citizens, a need highlighted by the 2012 attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador. "There's no substitute for U.S. amphibious" vessels, Cooling said. "We're looking at other options" in the meantime, he added.



    Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I don't really see what the problem is? The US, UK, France etc have been sharing technology, secrets, Bases, air strips etc for years now. In fact a lot of US soldiers that landed on the beaches in Normandy were transported by British landing craft, boats etc.
    Makes sense to me that we use each other's resources especially in a time of a major global crisis.
    Lol, our military budget is still 3x those of China and 7x those of Russia. It's also 40% above anything before 2001. It makes you wonder how we survived back then. En tout cast, the belief that they're emboldened is nothing but ignorant nonsense. Stop trying to be rational.
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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I don't really see what the problem is? The US, UK, France etc have been sharing technology, secrets, Bases, air strips etc for years now. In fact a lot of US soldiers that landed on the beaches in Normandy were transported by British landing craft, boats etc.
    Makes sense to me that we use each other's resources especially in a time of a major global crisis.
    I dont disagree with what you are saying, but we shouldn't have gotten into this situation in the first place. And this isn't a time of total war, we "technically" aren't even fighting a war at the moment. Its shortsighted to even be in this predicament.

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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol, our military budget is still 3x those of China and 7x those of Russia. It's also 40% above anything before 2001. It makes you wonder how we survived back then. En tout cast, the belief that they're emboldened is nothing but ignorant nonsense. Stop trying to be rational.
    Purchasing parity. You can't just compare budgets, you have to look at what you get for the money. And in any case, allowing our military to shrink to the point that our marines (who are still needed hence the deployment) have to hitch a ride with euros. Its shameful, but then again so is this president.

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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Purchasing parity.
    Military equipment around the world is purchased and sold in their US dollar value; not yens or rubles. Don't just throw out terms thinking you know how to use them in the real world, doc. However, let's say for a second you have some sort of point. Do you think the Russians are getting more for their money now that their currency is worth a 3rd of what it use to be? Think carefully about this one.

    You can't just compare budgets,
    Fine, let's compare actual military power:

    How much stronger is the US military compared with the next strongest power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Kearns, former paratrooper with the 82nd Airborne Division
    No other military or combination of militaries could even begin to inflict the slightest numbers of casualties on the United States military in a conventional war.

    Consider: The U.S. spends close to what the entire rest of the world spends in defense. $711 billion. Per year. The next closest is China at $143 billion.

    The M1 Abrams tank has seen more combat than just about any other tank on the battlefield today. It has never been knocked out by enemy fire. (Completely killed). Ever.

    China has less than 500 Type 99 tanks, that have just been developed, and are not even close to being as good as the Abrams. We have 8,700 Abrams.

    We have 10 aircraft carriers. The good kind. Everyone else has 10. Combined.
    And they are mostly small ships that can launch helicopters.

    There are 8,400 attack helicopters in the world. The U.S. has 6,400 of them.

    The United States has engaged in every type of ground warfare in the last 20 years. From mountains to jungles, and from desert to urban, we have the some of the most experienced warriors in the world. No other country comes close to the amount of combat veterans that we have.

    We own all the satellites that guide GPS systems. We have all the advanced stealth technology. The latest sensors? U.S. The latest information systems? U.S. An Abrams tank can see a target, the tank commander can instantly send that target to every tank in his company.
    Seriously. Just stop.

    you have to look at what you get for the money.
    You get what you pay for. China gets sub-par equipment, we get the world's leading technology. Do you honestly think they pose a threat? Get serious, man who saves lives.

    And in any case, allowing our military to shrink to the point that our marines (who are still needed hence the deployment) have to hitch a ride with euros. Its shameful, but then again so is this president.
    Military recruitment can outgrow actual military spending. It happens all around the world. Hitching a ride with the Europeans isn't the issue you're making it out to be. Get serious.
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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol, our military budget is still 3x those of China and 7x those of Russia. It's also 40% above anything before 2001. It makes you wonder how we survived back then. En tout cast, the belief that they're emboldened is nothing but ignorant nonsense. Stop trying to be rational.
    One needs to be cautious about using only total expenditures for a number of reasons. First, purchasing power differs. For example, according to official statistics (which may understate military expenditures by Russia and China for obvious regions e.g., to mask support for strategic programs), China's and Russia's military expenditures are just under 50% of U.S. expenditures. However, on a PPP-basis, their spending is about 80% of U.S. spending. Second, allocation of spending also matters. The U.S. spends a higher share of its military budget on salaries and benefits than do either Russia or China. Third, inefficient practices e.g., the military bidding-contracting-delivery process can also reduce the benefits of spending. The Pentagon has had a chronic history of cost-overruns and delays in numerous big-ticket programs (e.g., the F-35). Data concerning such issues in Russia and China aren't public--almost certainly some inefficiencies exist but the extent is unknown. This inefficiency should be a focus of reform, as programs that ultimately produce weapons systems at twice or three times the cost originally set forth in accepted bids are wasteful and they undercut the power impact from military investments.

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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Jeez...what's next?

    Deploy some Marines on the Moon in case ISIS gets a foothold there?
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