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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I think the supply chain isn't in the kind of danger you fear it is.
    Ah. So China, Russia, Iran, et. al. are really, deep down, secret Liberals who stay up late at night reading Adam Smith under the bed covers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper
    You plan to rape the world of it's resources to sustain your impossible lifestyle by brute force?
    Even better - I plan to help bring billions of people up out of poverty through trade. Raping Resources is actually rather bad business - you want an interconnected supply chain of actors across the globe, not a single point of (poor) planning.
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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's why I posted actual military capabilities. Anybody who thinks that Russia and China pose a threat to the US in any military capacity is simply out of their mind.
    .... or, has actually spent time studying the military capacity of (for example) the PRC. China's A2AD capability is no joke - it keeps the USN up at night.

    Good grief, if we wanted to, we could literally nuke every major Chinese/Russian city overnight
    Yeah. The problem being that, near-extinction-level assaults on the human species aren't what you call fungible.

    An analogy: If you are holding a grenade with the pin pulled, and you are using that to try to deter me, then in fact, I can do anything I like to you, up to the point where you decide you would rather die than continue to endure my attacks. Short of deterring the kind of attack that would put the survival of the United States in doubt, nukes aren't all that terribly useful weapons.

    cripple their entirely military infrastructure, and there wouldn't be a damn thing they'd be able to do short of kneeling down and asking for a quick death.
    This claim, unfortunately, lacks what Henry Kissinger likes to call "The added benefit of being true".

    It sounds really cocky
    It does sound cocky. It also sounds uninformed.

    the fact that Russia is telling the West not to fear Russia and China won't do much other than cry at the UN is proof enough.
    This would be the Russia that's invading the Ukraine and the China that's building military outposts in the South China Sea, yes?
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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Which war in 1973? We stayed out of Vietnam, so it wasn't that one. The Ark was deployed in the Mediterranean at the time of the pic. The plane was disguised as British so there wouldn't be riots in Malta when she put in to port there. (Read the pic's link.)
    Same in 2010, though you could stretch a point and call that deployment aboard a foreign ship part of the "war on drugs."

    No offense but the US military does not desire or need to depend on the brits for anything, nor should they-especially for our ship-borne fighting force. Maybe mexico or something, but not the US.

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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I think the supply chain isn't in the kind of danger you fear it is.
    You mean you'd like to believe that, because your dogma says so.

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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Even better - I plan to help bring billions of people up out of poverty through trade. Raping Resources is actually rather bad business - you want an interconnected supply chain of actors across the globe, not a single point of (poor) planning.
    Apparently (and as a Brit no less) he hasn't learned this.

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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    If we ever needed to Russia would have to give us a ride.
    Russia doesn't own SpaceX. That crazy American Elon Musk does.
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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Russia doesn't own SpaceX. That crazy American Elon Musk does.
    Space X launches cargo rockets for resupply, not manned ones IIRC. Musk is on to something, but thats ot.

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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Space X launches cargo rockets for resupply, not manned ones IIRC. Musk is on to something, but thats ot.
    Dragon

    Dragon is a free-flying spacecraft designed to deliver both cargo and people to orbiting destinations. Dragon made history in 2012 when it became the first commercial spacecraft in history to deliver cargo to the International Space Station and safely return cargo to Earth, a feat previously achieved only by governments. It is the only spacecraft currently flying that is capable of returning significant amounts of cargo to Earth. Currently Dragon carries cargo to space, but it was designed from the beginning to carry humans. Under an agreement with NASA, SpaceX is now developing the refinements that will enable Dragon to fly crew. Dragon's first manned test flight is expected to take place in 2-3 years.
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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Dragon

    Dragon is a free-flying spacecraft designed to deliver both cargo and people to orbiting destinations. Dragon made history in 2012 when it became the first commercial spacecraft in history to deliver cargo to the International Space Station and safely return cargo to Earth, a feat previously achieved only by governments. It is the only spacecraft currently flying that is capable of returning significant amounts of cargo to Earth. Currently Dragon carries cargo to space, but it was designed from the beginning to carry humans. Under an agreement with NASA, SpaceX is now developing the refinements that will enable Dragon to fly crew. Dragon's first manned test flight is expected to take place in 2-3 years.
    So your premise is that manned testing in 3 years somehow means being dependent on Russia is a good thing? I guess thats one way to go.

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    Re: Marines looking at deploying aboard foreign ships

    Marines should be limited to U.S. Navy ships and landing on beaches/small islands and THAT IS IT.

    And all MEU's/foreign deployed Marines should be brought home (outside of those on Navy ships).

    And I do not begin to care if Marine fanatics/neocons disagree.

    Neocons. The foreign terrorists best friend. Whenever the latter want to bring America into their little wars, they just have to say 'boo' and they can count on American neocons freaking out and wanting to butt in where it is none of their business.

    The Neocon credo...more money for defense. It does not matter how much is already being spent...they want more.

    The left ignoramuses have Krugmanites. And the right ignoramuses have neocons.
    They both are clueless (spending money they do not have for things they do not understand), but if I had to choose, I would choose the former. At least Krugmanites spend money to help people. Neocons spend money to kill people.

    Ike was dead right.
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