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Thread: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

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    re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post


    Pointless, you are avoiding what the Confederacy, and by extension....what the flag represents.
    This is what happens when we let public schools rob our children of history, and replace it with political correctness.
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    re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Pfffff. Hillary couldn't win SC in the general election if she personally handed each and every SC voter a check for fifty grand.

    The primary maybe.


    BO knows how to stir things up, huh? Its either do it now or let it linger and give the MS Media some more playtime with the issue. All going into election mode.

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    re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    I would respectfully move the battle flag to a war memorial on state land. Then, deed the immdieate land to a confederate heritage group. The group would then be responsible for maintaining the site.
    With State funds if and when needed to maintain should also be included. just my thoughts.
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    re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    This is what I mean exactly. Political correctness has raped history and rewritten it to suit its own agenda. You might call that a victory - but I think it's quite sad.
    If you're interested in history, trace the recent history of the Confederate flag, when it saw a huge resurgence in popularity across the former Confederacy. Find out what year it was first raised on the State Capitol in SC. For some strange reason, it coincided with Southern opposition to integration and civil rights for blacks.

    Were it not for that history, MAYBE the case could be made that it's all about history and southern pride and all that , but the fact is that flag became popular when states were defending Jim Crow and Federal attempts to roll back institutionalized, state sanctioned white supremacy.

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    re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It represented different things to different people. Ive seen black people with confederate flags.

    I think at this point (150 years after the civil war) its more a southern cultural/pride thing.
    I have never understood how one can have "pride" in a racist, losing "cause". That is so f*cked up.
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    re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    This is what happens when we let public schools rob our children of history, and replace it with political correctness.
    This is a cute meme that is ignoring the fact that I am directly dealing with what the Confederate govt was defending...and it is directly countering your claims....which you have apparently decided to drop.
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    re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    This is what happens when we let public schools rob our children of history, and replace it with political correctness.
    The public schools I attended in Tennessee never had us read some of the states' declarations of secession, which make the point crystal clear what the war was all about and why the South seceded. I'm embarrassed to admit I was over 40 before I looked them up and read them. Until then I thought there could be a case for a somewhat more nuanced cause for that war. But when the states say, paraphrased for brevity, "It's all about slavery" when they secede, you sort of have to take their word for it.

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    re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    This is what happens when we let public schools rob our children of history, and replace it with political correctness.
    Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition.
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    re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    If you're interested in history, trace the recent history of the Confederate flag, when it saw a huge resurgence in popularity across the former Confederacy. Find out what year it was first raised on the State Capitol in SC. For some strange reason, it coincided with Southern opposition to integration and civil rights for blacks.

    Were it not for that history, MAYBE the case could be made that it's all about history and southern pride and all that , but the fact is that flag became popular when states were defending Jim Crow and Federal attempts to roll back institutionalized, state sanctioned white supremacy.
    Photography is one of the most powerful ways to understand history. During the civil rights movement in the 50s and 60s, it was normal to see white Southerners in favor of segregation waving their flags in the faces of protesters. It was a counter protest of sorts.











    People want to continue perpetuating this lie that the confederacy existed to do anything other than preserve slavery and enforce racist ideals that had become taboo even by the 1800s. However, they can't really dispute history or the amount of primary evidence that shows this to be nothing more than whitewashing.
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    re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    Of course it matters what Lincoln was fighting for - it was his war.

    The South was fighting to keep the union troops from burning and destroying everything in sight. They failed, but that doesn't mean they did not honor their states. Less than 5% of the people ever owned slaves of benefited from the slave trade. The vast, vast majority fought to survive. The union was ruthless in battle and in the Reconstruction that followed.
    The South was fighting to destroy our country. The North as fighting in self-defense after Southerners attacked a defenseless Ft. Sumter.

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