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Thread: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

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    Re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    I voted to remove. It is long overdue. Evenso, I keep hearing those in position of authority predicted "to call for removal," instead of it already being said or done.

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    Re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Gov. Haley continues to be the adult in the room, both sides of the aisle.
    Sen. Graham didn't change his position on the flag until Gov. Haley gave him cover.
    And Sen. Scott had nothing to say until Gov. Haley spoke.

    Yet it wasn't long ago when she ran against the establishment wing in SC to get the GOP nomination to be governor.
    I doubt if my conservative/GOP friends need to be reminded of the racial slurs thrown her way due to her heritage.
    Not to mention the same slurs thrown at Gov. Jindal--such as "we don't need another ******* as governor in the GOP" .
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    Re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    We continue to see leading GOP contenders for POTUS hide behind state's rights on the Confederate flag.

    What is not being addressed by everyone is the battle between state's rights and a strong central government.
    The overriding issue of our Nation since it was first formed--the tenth/civil war amendment.

    What I do see is Roof succeeding in his attempt to divide America--as evidenced on this board with the nonsensical back-and-forth posting .
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    Re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds | MSNBC

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    The governor has called for the removal of the flag : http://www.yahoo.com/politics/watch-...182725721.html

    The Confederate flag should not be displayed by any state government.

    But that won't stop some people from using it for their own racist reasons.

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    Re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    It is a part of our PAST American culture. That said it's amazing to me as a 27 year old white guy that it would still be flying ANYWHERE on state or Federal property. That's just insane. Some Southern states truly need to think about the actual modern country they live in.


    Honestly it's just a bunch of fat redneck guys that truly support the flag being flown. They're mad they they aren't getting any so they latch onto issues that in their minds empower them. These are the same types that stereotypically drunk punch people in bars over a woman that isn't even into them and then that very woman calls cops on em.

    Crazy stuff.

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    Re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    I explained in another thread why I believe the flag should be taken down, and that just because the flag is a symbol doesn't mean that it does not have actual consequences:

    It does belong in a museum. It may be symbolic on the face of it, but symbolism has real life consequences. As long as states like South Carolina continue to fly confederate flags on official government property and name streets after confederate generals and such, it is going to keep the issue of racial tension at the forefront of people's minds. The presence of remnants of institutionalized racism such as these symbols only encourage heinous and racist acts such as the Charleston shooting. Black people in South Carolina are literally driving down streets named after generals that fought to keep their ancestors enslaved, and their very state government flies the flag of a rogue nation whose primary purpose for existing was to preserve slavery. That is going to bring racial tensions to the forefront of people's minds. If people want to actually display confederate flags, that free speech and their right, albeit in very poor taste, but this active government endorsement of these symbols is clearly hurting the state of race relations, and if a clear proportion of the population wants a flag that brings no obvious benefits taken down, then by all means it should be.

    And this is 100% utter crap.

    Symbolism is protected by the 1st Amendment.

    Btw, How about the Federal Government change the names of many of it's military bases and those street names on those military bases of Confederate Soldiers? See how that works out.. first.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    The "Stars & Bars" (Confederate) flag in question is not the South Carolina state flag.

    The "Stars & Bars" do not appear, in any way, on the SC State flag.

    The flag that is under debate here is a "Confederate" flag that hangs in front of the SC state building along with the State flag.
    No the issue is a bigger then that. You have 9 states that issues Sons of the Confederacy Vehicle plates which has Sons of Confederate Veterans logo. You also have Mississippi and Georgia which have "star and bars" features. Then you Six flags over Texas.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Quick question: If a German decided to fly the Nazi flag under the premise that their ancestors did so, and they want to honor those ancestors and what they fought for, not necessarily the whole burning Jews in gas ovens part, would anybody buy it?
    When it comes to our "Ukrainian" allies. By allies, the ones we installed into power.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The average southerner was a poor white man who owned no slaves. While govt's certainly went to war over economic issues, I have read many journals from the people who actually fought, and why they fought.

    I get the impression (though Im not southern) that much of the pride comes from this. To this day I still hear southerners proudly mention individual family members that fought in the war.
    There is this book by Mark Nesbitt .
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Gov. Haley to call for removal of Confederate flag from Capitol grounds [W:154]

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    And this is 100% utter crap.

    Symbolism is protected by the 1st Amendment.
    Please explain to me how removal of the confederate flag from public property prevents private (i.e. non-governmental) expression using said flag.

    Government owned streets and military bases named after people who literally fought to preserve slavery should obviously be renamed as well.
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