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Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

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How many died?
 
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Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire on Block Party, at Least 7, Including 2-Year-Old, Hurt | NBC 10 Philadelphia
Yet another shooting has happening. Maybe it's time to finally outlaw gun ownership? There are too many shootings happening recently and it's not like it is going to stop. People get injured and killed every single day. It seems like we are turning into a third world country. That trend must be stopped since none of our policies actually work.

You mean like the slightly lesser versions of this one?

Maybe it's time to finally outlaw gun ownership?

Considering the traditional conservative view on gun ownership... Perhaps you should opt for a "slightly conservative" political affiliation? Just a suggestion.
 
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Bad day for block parties...

1 dead, 9 others shot at Detroit block party

Asst. Police Chief Steve Dolunt said a 20-year-old man was killed. He was not being identified while relatives were informed.
Another man was critically injured and eight others, five men and three women, were listed as seriously injured. The victims ranged in age from 21 to 46, he said.
Dolunt said the shooting happened at a neighborhood party that included a barbecue attended by families with some small children in strollers.
"Through the grace of God no children were shot," he said.
 
Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire on Block Party, at Least 7, Including 2-Year-Old, Hurt | NBC 10 Philadelphia
Yet another shooting has happening. Maybe it's time to finally outlaw gun ownership? There are too many shootings happening recently and it's not like it is going to stop. People get injured and killed every single day. It seems like we are turning into a third world country. That trend must be stopped since none of our policies actually work.

Guns are not the root problem.
 
I need a clear understanding of the shooter's politics before I can comment.
 
It's actually a great idea.

No it's a terrible one. Guns won't magically disappear if they're made illegal all it will do is take the guns out of the law abiding citizens hands and leave criminals with all of them. Also it's unconstitutional which means it's unAmerican. Also it would cost a ton of money for the government to enforce which would only increase our deficit. Also it would hurt the economy because gun maker would go out of businesses.

See how "great" an idea it is now?
 
And the NRA's solution, I'm sure, will be to try get more people armed!
 
Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire on Block Party, at Least 7, Including 2-Year-Old, Hurt | NBC 10 Philadelphia
Yet another shooting has happening. Maybe it's time to finally outlaw gun ownership? There are too many shootings happening recently and it's not like it is going to stop. People get injured and killed every single day. It seems like we are turning into a third world country. That trend must be stopped since none of our policies actually work.

Well, I can top that. A young Austrian took his SUV into the pedestrian zone in Vienna, where he pursued pedestrians running them down. He killed three outright and put thirty-four in hospital many of whom are uncertain to survive.

It seems it was not a racist act.
 
I think the gun banners and the climate warmers should get together on this one. Clearly, when the temperatures are too hot, people get uncomfortable and cranky and little things irritate and then, boom, out comes the artillery. I blame global warming.

On a serious note, just as an outside observer, I don't see how this late in the game any talk of significant gun control could be accomplished when your Supreme Court has upheld a constitutionally protected right for citizens to be armed, when you have over 300 million firearms of one sort or another in circulation, and any attempt to confiscate them would result in far more death and destruction than any mentally ill person could commit. Just think, even if it was a good idea, you can't come to any agreement on how to deal with 20 million, give or take, illegal aliens running loose and you want to outlaw gun ownership of 300 million plus guns? Good luck with that.
 
And the NRA's solution, I'm sure, will be to try get more people armed!

I have no problem with that.

The NRA wants to arm law abiding citizens.

Our government is arming the Mexican drug cartel. :lamo

I will stick with the NRA.
 
Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire on Block Party, at Least 7, Including 2-Year-Old, Hurt | NBC 10 Philadelphia
Yet another shooting has happening. Maybe it's time to finally outlaw gun ownership? There are too many shootings happening recently and it's not like it is going to stop. People get injured and killed every single day. It seems like we are turning into a third world country. That trend must be stopped since none of our policies actually work.

Well since it happened at a block party, maybe we oughta ban block parties instead...
 
Considering the traditional conservative view on gun ownership... Perhaps you should opt for a "slightly conservative" political affiliation? Just a suggestion.

FWIW, the Conservative Party of the U.K. supports the country's very strict gun control laws. The Liberal Party of Australia (which refers to free-market classical liberalism, and is Australia's largest right-wing party) actually banned gun owners from joining the party. On the other side of the spectrum, there are some more revolutionary leftist groups than support the idea of promoting gun ownership in order to empower the proletariat.

My point is that while in mainstream U.S. debate, we traditionally associate gun control with the left and gun rights with the right, it's a very unique issue and does not follow the traditional left-right paradigm.
 
Another racist white terrorist (2, including the shooter in Detroit)?
 
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On a serious note, just as an outside observer, I don't see how this late in the game any talk of significant gun control could be accomplished when your Supreme Court has upheld a constitutionally protected right for citizens to be armed, when you have over 300 million firearms of one sort or another in circulation, and any attempt to confiscate them would result in far more death and destruction than any mentally ill person could commit. Just think, even if it was a good idea, you can't come to any agreement on how to deal with 20 million, give or take, illegal aliens running loose and you want to outlaw gun ownership of 300 million plus guns? Good luck with that.

You made some good points.
 
I’m not quite sure I see the link between killing and political affiliation. If a white man (why is it always men), guns down a black man, does that mean he’s a right wing racist crazy, or is it because he had a grudge for whatever reason against someone who happened to be black?

‘More whites than blacks are victims of deadly police shootings.’ — Michael Medved on Tuesday, August 19th, 2014 in a Web post from the "Michael Medved Show"
‘Over the span of more than a decade, 2,151 whites died by being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.’ Politifact.com, 2015.
Why does it have to turn into a black racial issue, followed by riots?

Last year Muslims went on the rampage in Kunming, China. Not a gun in sight and 29 dead, chopped to pieces with axes and knives before the police shot them.
Perhaps it’s not guns then, but as I’ve said elsewhere, a reflection of the society we live in?
 
Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire on Block Party, at Least 7, Including 2-Year-Old, Hurt | NBC 10 Philadelphia
Yet another shooting has happening. Maybe it's time to finally outlaw gun ownership? There are too many shootings happening recently and it's not like it is going to stop. People get injured and killed every single day. It seems like we are turning into a third world country. That trend must be stopped since none of our policies actually work.

Ho hum - it is Detroit.
 
I have no problem with that.

The NRA wants to arm law abiding citizens.

Our government is arming the Mexican drug cartel. :lamo

I will stick with the NRA.
Well, with almost 300M guns & the highest per capita gun ownership in the world, we still lead the civilized world in gun deaths by far.

How many more guns will do it?

100M?

200M?

What da ya' think?

Maybe 500M (1/2 Billion) total, will make us safe as the countries that have less?

The NRA never tells us the end-game - just that we need more.
 
Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire on Block Party, at Least 7, Including 2-Year-Old, Hurt | NBC 10 Philadelphia
Yet another shooting has happening. Maybe it's time to finally outlaw gun ownership? There are too many shootings happening recently and it's not like it is going to stop. People get injured and killed every single day. It seems like we are turning into a third world country. That trend must be stopped since none of our policies actually work.
Was it legal to shoot people in Philly? Wait it wasn't? So why would outlawing guns make a difference?
 
And the NRA's solution, I'm sure, will be to try get more people armed!

An armed society is a polite society. Shooters rarely go on spree's where they are likely to be shot.
 
This is more proof of the need for Americans to arm themselves. How many of the thugs involved in this shooting and the Detroit gang shootings have permits to carry a weapon under the rules of law. How many of these shooters and those shot have criminal records? That is two questions, both are most important but lets see if the media addresses either of the two.
 
Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire on Block Party, at Least 7, Including 2-Year-Old, Hurt | NBC 10 Philadelphia
Yet another shooting has happening. Maybe it's time to finally outlaw gun ownership? There are too many shootings happening recently and it's not like it is going to stop. People get injured and killed every single day. It seems like we are turning into a third world country. That trend must be stopped since none of our policies actually work.

How many laws did the man break? Quite a few, is my guess.

How is one more law, the one you vaguely propose, going to stop him from doing what he did?
 
Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire on Block Party, at Least 7, Including 2-Year-Old, Hurt | NBC 10 Philadelphia
Yet another shooting has happening. Maybe it's time to finally outlaw gun ownership? There are too many shootings happening recently and it's not like it is going to stop. People get injured and killed every single day. It seems like we are turning into a third world country. That trend must be stopped since none of our policies actually work.

Do we know what he's watching on Television yet?
 
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