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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironfist17 View Post
    Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire on Block Party, at Least 7, Including 2-Year-Old, Hurt | NBC 10 Philadelphia
    Yet another shooting has happening. Maybe it's time to finally outlaw gun ownership? There are too many shootings happening recently and it's not like it is going to stop. People get injured and killed every single day. It seems like we are turning into a third world country. That trend must be stopped since none of our policies actually work.
    Well, I can top that. A young Austrian took his SUV into the pedestrian zone in Vienna, where he pursued pedestrians running them down. He killed three outright and put thirty-four in hospital many of whom are uncertain to survive.

    It seems it was not a racist act.

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    I think the gun banners and the climate warmers should get together on this one. Clearly, when the temperatures are too hot, people get uncomfortable and cranky and little things irritate and then, boom, out comes the artillery. I blame global warming.

    On a serious note, just as an outside observer, I don't see how this late in the game any talk of significant gun control could be accomplished when your Supreme Court has upheld a constitutionally protected right for citizens to be armed, when you have over 300 million firearms of one sort or another in circulation, and any attempt to confiscate them would result in far more death and destruction than any mentally ill person could commit. Just think, even if it was a good idea, you can't come to any agreement on how to deal with 20 million, give or take, illegal aliens running loose and you want to outlaw gun ownership of 300 million plus guns? Good luck with that.
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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    And the NRA's solution, I'm sure, will be to try get more people armed!
    I have no problem with that.

    The NRA wants to arm law abiding citizens.

    Our government is arming the Mexican drug cartel.

    I will stick with the NRA.

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironfist17 View Post
    Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire on Block Party, at Least 7, Including 2-Year-Old, Hurt | NBC 10 Philadelphia
    Yet another shooting has happening. Maybe it's time to finally outlaw gun ownership? There are too many shootings happening recently and it's not like it is going to stop. People get injured and killed every single day. It seems like we are turning into a third world country. That trend must be stopped since none of our policies actually work.
    Well since it happened at a block party, maybe we oughta ban block parties instead...

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Considering the traditional conservative view on gun ownership... Perhaps you should opt for a "slightly conservative" political affiliation? Just a suggestion.
    FWIW, the Conservative Party of the U.K. supports the country's very strict gun control laws. The Liberal Party of Australia (which refers to free-market classical liberalism, and is Australia's largest right-wing party) actually banned gun owners from joining the party. On the other side of the spectrum, there are some more revolutionary leftist groups than support the idea of promoting gun ownership in order to empower the proletariat.

    My point is that while in mainstream U.S. debate, we traditionally associate gun control with the left and gun rights with the right, it's a very unique issue and does not follow the traditional left-right paradigm.
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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Another racist white terrorist (2, including the shooter in Detroit)?

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
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    On a serious note, just as an outside observer, I don't see how this late in the game any talk of significant gun control could be accomplished when your Supreme Court has upheld a constitutionally protected right for citizens to be armed, when you have over 300 million firearms of one sort or another in circulation, and any attempt to confiscate them would result in far more death and destruction than any mentally ill person could commit. Just think, even if it was a good idea, you can't come to any agreement on how to deal with 20 million, give or take, illegal aliens running loose and you want to outlaw gun ownership of 300 million plus guns? Good luck with that.
    You made some good points.

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    I’m not quite sure I see the link between killing and political affiliation. If a white man (why is it always men), guns down a black man, does that mean he’s a right wing racist crazy, or is it because he had a grudge for whatever reason against someone who happened to be black?

    ‘More whites than blacks are victims of deadly police shootings.’ — Michael Medved on Tuesday, August 19th, 2014 in a Web post from the "Michael Medved Show"
    ‘Over the span of more than a decade, 2,151 whites died by being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.’ Politifact.com, 2015.
    Why does it have to turn into a black racial issue, followed by riots?

    Last year Muslims went on the rampage in Kunming, China. Not a gun in sight and 29 dead, chopped to pieces with axes and knives before the police shot them.
    Perhaps it’s not guns then, but as I’ve said elsewhere, a reflection of the society we live in?

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironfist17 View Post
    Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire on Block Party, at Least 7, Including 2-Year-Old, Hurt | NBC 10 Philadelphia
    Yet another shooting has happening. Maybe it's time to finally outlaw gun ownership? There are too many shootings happening recently and it's not like it is going to stop. People get injured and killed every single day. It seems like we are turning into a third world country. That trend must be stopped since none of our policies actually work.
    Ho hum - it is Detroit.

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by PIPEWRENCH View Post
    I have no problem with that.

    The NRA wants to arm law abiding citizens.

    Our government is arming the Mexican drug cartel.

    I will stick with the NRA.
    Well, with almost 300M guns & the highest per capita gun ownership in the world, we still lead the civilized world in gun deaths by far.

    How many more guns will do it?

    100M?

    200M?

    What da ya' think?

    Maybe 500M (1/2 Billion) total, will make us safe as the countries that have less?

    The NRA never tells us the end-game - just that we need more.
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