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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Actually, a handgun is faster to deploy than an automatic weapon. Fewer steps, lighter and you have a much better chance of getting the first shot off (the most critical point in any armed conflict). A decently trained individual with a handgun can put a round "down range" in about 2 seconds, the same person would take about twice that long with an AR. It's why law enforcement in this country PREFERS handguns over automatic rifles. Also, in most cases, the presence of multiple handguns FAR out weighs any advantage that someone carrying an AR would have. Anyone with any tactical training at all would tell that more weapons in the hands of the good guys is the best way to stop the bad guys. BALANCE!!
    True. Additionally these shootings rarely take place over great distances which is where the real benefit of a long arm, and drawbacks of a handgun are seen. Even so, those that stop these shooters with pistols have taken some very long shots and achieved hits with pistols.

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    True. Additionally these shootings rarely take place over great distances which is where the real benefit of a long arm, and drawbacks of a handgun are seen. Even so, those that stop these shooters with pistols have taken some very long shots and achieved hits with pistols.
    Concealability is another primary factor, I would expect. Walk into a bank with a rifle and everyone is paying attention to you. Element of surprise ruined.

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    Don't see Obubble addressing this. Of course, #BlackLivesMatter only when Whites are the shooters in the world of Obubble and Sharpton.

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Concealability is another primary factor, I would expect. Walk into a bank with a rifle and everyone is paying attention to you. Element of surprise ruined.
    Thats true, its a disadvantage to advertise you are armed if you dont have to.

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    Don't see Obubble addressing this. Of course, #BlackLivesMatter only when Whites are the shooters in the world of Obubble and Sharpton.
    Its nothing but the same old story. He only mentions these things if it furthers his agenda.

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    I would always prefer an AR15 when going into a possible shooting. Unfortunately most police are stuck with a 9 mil pistol when all hell breaks out. In most shootings the hit ratio drops to 1 in 3 shots if you are lucky. It is not uncommon for a police officer to empty his pistol without a single hit. Unfortunately it is human nature to try and get off that first shot and then once the firing starts panic and adrenaline take over and 5 seconds later you are shooting an empty gun with no hits. Then the panic loading and shooting really gets under way. The problem is most officers or Joe public get in one fire fight in their life if their luck runs out. Fortunately most people never get in one.

    Very few people practice making that quick move to cover then a relaxed methodical shot that ends the fire fight in 2 seconds.

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Virtually every mass shooter was on a Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor for mental health problems.
    I know, which I have a big problem with. There's a direct relationship between the amount of cuts in mental health spending in the past 15-20 years, the number of shootings that we've been seeing. We just give people meds and send them on their merry way with no real ancillary support, even though all of the psychology research shows that meds + some kind of consistent counseling therapy is always the best approach. Instead, we just give people chemical strait jackets and expect them to figure it out.

    Numerous studies also show that depressed people tend to become more suicidal the longer they are on SSRIs, and it becomes easier to carry out. I would say kamikaze massacres where you feel you have nothing to lose falls under that category.

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We already know why-mental illness. Its not like its not investigated thoroughly in each episode. I think there is a morbid curiosity here, and I don't like the amount of coverage they get. I dont go to their facebook accounts, read their manifestos, etc. I have no doubt some are attracted to the idea of the attention-thats how these freaks roll.

    Also, I reject the notion that mass shootings are on the rise, in fact they are on the decline and still exceedingly rare-they just get the most coverage and so it seems that way. See this AP report...
    Associated Press Story: Believe It or Not Mass Killings Are Not on the Rise, They Are on the Decline | TheBlaze.com
    There has always been mental illness in our society, but not this many massacres so back-to-back. What do you think the deeper explanation is? (Not a rhetorical question, I'm genuinely asking.)

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    There has always been mental illness in our society, but not this many massacres so back-to-back. What do you think the deeper explanation is? (Not a rhetorical question, I'm genuinely asking.)
    You are incorrect, mass shootings are less common today than they have ever been. It FEELS that way to you, because while these shootings are amongst the rarest of murders, they are also the most reported.

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    Re: Man Toting Shotgun Opens Fire in Philadelphia leaving seven people hurt

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    Don't see Obubble addressing this. Of course, #BlackLivesMatter only when Whites are the shooters in the world of Obubble and Sharpton.
    I just came by to see.jpg
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