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    NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    A National Rifle Association executive in Texas has come under fire for suggesting that a South Carolina lawmaker and pastor slain with eight members of his congregation bears some of the blame for his opposition to permitting concealed handguns in church.

    In an online thread about Wednesday night's mass shooting at the Emanuel African Methodist Church in Charleston, Cotton said that one of the nine people slain, church pastor and Democratic state Senator Clementa Pinckney, had voted against legislation in 2011 that would have allowed concealed possession of handguns in restaurants, day-care centers and churches....

    "Eight of his church members who might be alive if he had expressly allowed members to carry handguns in church are dead," Cotton wrote.

    NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths | Reuters
    Cotton might be "insensitive" and a "monster," but he's got a point: Another mass shooting in a "gun free zone."
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Cotton might be "insensitive" and a "monster," but he's got a point: Another mass shooting in a "gun free zone."
    No. There is no-one to blame for this other than the one pulling the trigger, and to a somewhat lesser extent those who knew and failed to stop him, those who taught him to hate, and those who believe the same things he does. There is no way no know, there is no reason to believe that any of those 9 people would have been carrying or if one of them was that it would have made a difference.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    You fail to mention that the South Carolina legislature failed to pass a law allowing concealed carry in churches and other public places.
    As to be expected from someone defending this NRA board member .

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Cotton might be "insensitive" and a "monster," but he's got a point: Another mass shooting in a "gun free zone."
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    No. There is no-one to blame for this other than the one pulling the trigger, and to a somewhat lesser extent those who knew and failed to stop him, those who taught him to hate, and those who believe the same things he does. There is no way no know, there is no reason to believe that any of those 9 people would have been carrying or if one of them was that it would have made a difference.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You fail to mention that the South Carolina legislature failed to pass a law allowing concealed carry in churches and other public places.
    As to be expected from someone defending this NRA board member .
    If the good reverend had given his consent to members to carry concealed weopons, it's possible someone would have been armed other the Mr. Roof. Not defending the NRA board member personally, just his logic, which is sound. The fact that he's right and touched a nerve is why his comments are getting such a visceral reaction from the anti-gun crowd. They just can't acknowledge that people who have the ability to defend themselves stand a better chance of not getting shot than those who don't. Seems like common sense, but then maybe I expect too much from liberals.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    If the good reverend had given his consent to members to carry concealed weopons,
    it's possible someone would have been armed other the Mr. Roof.
    The Reverend would have been breaking the state of South Carolina law by giving consent to carry concealed weapons.
    Is that what you are advocating?
    Why do you continue to make excuses for this NRA board member and go along with his criticism of the reverend/state senator ?
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    If the good reverend had given his consent to members to carry concealed weopons, it's possible someone would have been armed other the Mr. Roof. Not defending the NRA board member personally, just his logic, which is sound.
    The fact that he's right and touched a nerve is why his comments are getting such a visceral reaction from the anti-gun crowd.
    They just can't acknowledge that people who have the ability to defend themselves stand a better chance of not getting shot than those who don't. Seems like common sense, but then maybe I expect too much from liberals.


    Wrong.

    He's getting negative feedback from the whole world because his comments are totally wrong.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The Reverend would have been breaking the state of South Carolina law by giving consent to carry concealed weapons.
    That is incorrect:

    South Carolina forbids residents with concealed-carry permits to bring their weapons into a church or “other established religious sanctuary” without “express permission” from a church official or other authority affiliated with the institution.

    South Carolina Has Permissive Gun Laws. Here's Why That Won't Change.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    He's getting negative feedback from the whole world because his comments are totally wrong.
    It can't be that his logic is flawed because that's not what's being questioned, at least not by people with a brain. Just his "insensitivity."
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    The NRA is the most vile and disgusting organization in this country. Who in the hell wants to carry a gun to worship in church and how could anyone suggest that. They use every tragic event to promote their insane ideology. This group appeals to militia idiots and skin heads.

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