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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

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    You have allowed yourself to be manipulated by the media, congrats.

    These shootings are NOT more common these days, in fact they are less common.
    Incorrect. In the context of what we are discussing, they are more common. But, please feel free to prove the opposite.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

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    Incorrect. In the context of what we are discussing, they are more common. But, please feel free to prove the opposite.
    Mass shootings are less prevalent today then they have ever been. This is a fact.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

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    A tool for firing bullets. Regardless of what you think, a gun has no intent or value associated with it. Only the user of the gun, does.
    As does the user of an ICBM so by your definition does that mean that that is not a weapon too ?

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

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    As does the user of an ICBM so by your definition does that mean that that is not a weapon too ?
    Name all the uses of an ICBM.

    Name all the uses of a gun.

    Let's see if you can spot the difference.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Mass shootings are less prevalent today then they have ever been. This is a fact.
    Ah. No evidence. As usual, your comments are invalid and dismissed.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Name all the uses of an ICBM.

    Name all the uses of a gun.

    Let's see if you can spot the difference.
    Aircraft carriers have a lot of uses as well but they are still primarily a weapon

    A guns primary use is killing people its what it was invented to do. I would not need to elaborate on this simple easily understood point to most pre school infants

    Making guns seem harmless and benign when they are so obviously not is being wilfully obtuse in order to try and defend the indefensible frankly
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Aircraft carriers have a lot of uses as well but they are still primarily a weapon

    A guns primary use is killing people its what it was invented to do. I would not need to elaborate on this simple easily understood point to most pre school infants

    Making guns seem harmless and benign when they are so obviously not is being wilfully obtuse in order to try and defend the indefensible frankly
    Guns can be helpful and useful as well as dangerous. Some would say that your desire to restrict gun ownership is what is indefensible.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Guns can be helpful and useful as well as dangerous. Some would say that your desire to restrict gun ownership is what is indefensible.
    Wanting to save lives being so needlessly lost is never indefensible

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You have allowed yourself to be manipulated by the media, congrats.

    These shootings are NOT more common these days, in fact they are less common.
    Mass murders are increasing.

    A quick search online shows.

    17 shootings resulting in 116 deaths and 156 injured between 1985 and 1995.
    15 shootings resulting in 97 deaths and 108 injured between 1995 and 2005.
    35 shootings resulting in 303 deaths and 218 injured between 2005 and 2015 (so far).

    US Mass Shootings, 1982-2012: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation | Mother Jones

    And from the Washington Post.

    A report published by the FBI last year, studying active shooting situations between 2000 and 2013, found that these kinds of incidents were happening more and more recently. The first seven years of the study found an average of 6.4 active shootings per year, while the last seven years of the study found that number jumped up to 16.4 incidents per year.

    Another very interesting read including a chart showing far more shootings since 2006 than I found.

    USA TODAY | BEHIND THE BLOODSHED: THE UNTOLD STORY OF AMERICA?S MASS KILLINGS
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And if the queen had balls, she'd be king. That's the extent of the logic of your argument.
    As far as I know the queen doesn't have balls, but she does have her own police force used for personal protection armed with Heckler & Koch MP5s. I suppose you think she should get rid it of, I mean since the British are so more civilized than Americans?
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