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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    At the very least, let individual churches choose as a congregation whether to be "CCW friendly" or not... and then let the parishoners "vote with their feet".
    Exactly...inform the parishoners and let them decide if they want to worship there. Same with the colleges, you do have the choice to send your kids to a gun college or not. The only problem with colleges, it is not fair to the ones who do not want guns in their classroom or dorms if they are there already. They should not have to transfer to another college to get away from guns.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Oh dear. I guess I am a psychopath.


    I carry in church, where it is permitted... and frankly whether it is permitted is a factor in whether I attend that church.


    (Protip: I'm not a psychopath. I am however aware that churches are not protected by some mystic dome of peace that prevents bad people from targeting them... and just as I am not interested in being at the mercy of thugs and loonies when shopping at Walmart, ditto at church. See Luke 22:36.)
    I apologize then. I can't imagine carrying a gun to church with me, at least inside the sanctuary and I would have thought most people felt that way. I was obviously wrong.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh if he BOUGHT ONE it was before the pending felony charge but the at least some of the reports said his father gave it to him BEFORE the pending felony charge.

    oh once he was under indictment it was a felony for him to own the gun-that worked to stop him didn't it?
    No, it came out after that, he bought the gun shortly after his 21st birthday. His drug charge was in February of this year...he bought the gun after. His Dad did not buy it and his roommate hid it from him because he was so scary. He only returned it because he was afraid the shooter would accuse him of stealing it.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    Exactly...inform the parishoners and let them decide if they want to worship there. Same with the colleges, you do have the choice to send your kids to a gun college or not. The only problem with colleges, it is not fair to the ones who do not want guns in their classroom or dorms if they are there already. They should not have to transfer to another college to get away from guns.
    so it was not fair to let women into say the USMA because the men already there didn't expect to have women in the classes? or how about desegregating the top public universities like the U of NC or the U of Va.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    Can you truthfully say that the 80 years and 2 crimes was because of the regulation? This can be seen both ways. We both could be wrong or right...we simply do not know for sure. You want wide open carry and ownership for every lethal weapon under the sun...others have a line in the sand.
    What's wrong with open carry? What's "wide open carry" is there a "narrow" open carry

    The three safest states in the country all permit open carry with no license
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    No, it came out after that, he bought the gun shortly after his 21st birthday. His drug charge was in February of this year...he bought the gun after. His Dad did not buy it and his roommate hid it from him because he was so scary. He only returned it because he was afraid the shooter would accuse him of stealing it.
    well then if that is true, why did his "pending felony" not come up on the BGC. other stories claim his father gave him the gun

    when did he turn 21?

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    from CNN http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/cha...ect/index.html
    Roof turned 21 in April, and a short time later he had a gun.
    On Thursday, investigators did a trace of the handgun used in Wednesday's shooting and determined that it was a .45-caliber handgun Roof purchased from a Charleston gun store in April, two law enforcement officials told CNN's Perez and Bruer.
    Roof purchased a Glock .45-caliber model 41, which holds 13 rounds, a federal law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation said. Witnesses have reported that Roof reloaded a number of times.
    Roof's father and uncle contacted police after surveillance camera images of the suspect were made public, according to the arrest warrant. His father told authorities his son owned a .45-caliber handgun.
    Joe Roof, his grandfather, said Roof was given "birthday money" and that the family didn't know what he did with it.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    What's wrong with open carry? What's "wide open carry" is there a "narrow" open carry

    The three safest states in the country all permit open carry with no license
    true, I am not a big fan of open carry in many environments. in some places its quite appropriate-like a USPSA match or opening turkey day in the state park

    downtown NYC or in the Victoria Secrets shop-not so much
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    No, it came out after that, he bought the gun shortly after his 21st birthday. His drug charge was in February of this year...he bought the gun after. His Dad did not buy it and his roommate hid it from him because he was so scary. He only returned it because he was afraid the shooter would accuse him of stealing it.
    Well he did steal it in a technical sense.

    But he should've called the police
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you actually understand what the Hughes Amendment was?
    It can still be interpreted differently...all of them can. This is part of the problem.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well then if that is true, why did his "pending felony" not come up on the BGC. other stories claim his father gave him the gun

    when did he turn 21?
    You worked for the DOJ you know why it didn't trigger a denial, the court that indicted him didn't submit
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