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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    Guns don't belong in learning environments. I work in several colleges and the maturity level is just not there. On large University campuses...you are talking about people who are 18-23 years old. Combine alcohol and recreational drugs...this could be a disaster. Why tempt fate? Someone mentioned rape on campuses in a earlier thread...a gun is not going to do a girl any good is she is drugged from a roofie or passed out drunk. College rapes are different from violent sociopath rape...usually there is a lot of alcohol and many mixed messages. The solution to this problem is much different than adding a gun to the mix. Bars and guns are not a good idea. All it takes is a 21 year old, a gun, 3 shots of Jack and a beer...then add a girl...good decisions are not made. Plus if they are bad shots...others can get killed as well. Why can't we all go and share a few drinks in a place of fun..without worrying about who is strapped. These are not extreme requests. Our most recent cop shooting was from a douche in a bar...

    Banning guns will never happen in our life time...stop worrying about it. Banning guns would turn this Nation upside down and it will not work in the US. BTW, it is impossible to purchase a machine gun now...and access is scarce. They are legal under a specific code of transferability. One would need a few bucks to purchase one of those.

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    You are blanket smearing young people here. I know plenty of young nurses, are they too immature for nursing? 23 year olds fought WW2, I think they can handle a gun. And there are older students as well. I think you are picturing the sorority house from Revenge of the Nerds, in general, colleges aren't like that these days.

    As for drinking, its already illegal to drink and carry, and I know 40 years olds where you could say the same.

    Its not impossible to purchase machine guns, they just have to have been manufactured before 1986.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Meh. I knew people, male and female, who carried at college when I was attending, even though it wasn't strictly legal.


    None of them ever shot anyone by accident, or in a drunken rage.


    Colorado has permitted it for a while now. No incidents to my knowledge.



    Said it before: if the large majority of our young adults in University are using the experience to get brain-dead drunk, take stupefying amounts of drugs, and have sex with lots of people they barely know... then something is wrong with our University situation to START with.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Another day another gun massacre. Hey ho . As long as the guns are safe what else matters

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You are blanket smearing young people here. I know plenty of young nurses, are they too immature for nursing? 23 year olds fought WW2, I think they can handle a gun. And there are older students as well. I think you are picturing the sorority house from Revenge of the Nerds, in general, colleges aren't like that these days.

    As for drinking, its already illegal to drink and carry, and I know 40 years olds where you could say the same.

    Its not impossible to purchase machine guns, they just have to have been manufactured before 1986.
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    I was part of a fraternity in college!! I was a Little Sister of Theta Chi and have attended more frat parties than most ever have. Nursing and carrying a lethal weapon are two different animals. You are not comparing apples to oranges...not even close. Nurses have 2-4 years to learn their skills, compared to walking into Walmart, purchasing a gun before you even know how to load it. I think you are broad brushing that all people have the common sense to own a gun.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You are blanket smearing young people here. I know plenty of young nurses, are they too immature for nursing? 23 year olds fought WW2, I think they can handle a gun. And there are older students as well. I think you are picturing the sorority house from Revenge of the Nerds, in general, colleges aren't like that these days.
    Yes, there are many non-traditional college students these days, and these include returned vets. The students and staff who are licensed to carry aren't going to be a problem, I don't think.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

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    But in reality,there are really no such things as "gun free zones" since America is not a gun free zone. Its on the verge of being an oxymoron.

    Look - if some asshole opens fire in a school or church or any other so called gun free zone and somebody is packing and blows him away - the person should get a medal and a parade for heavens sake. But I do not think its too much to ask that we ask people not to bring guns in certain places.
    Do you recognize that these two assertions are at odds with each other? That the latter, if obeyed, prevents the former?

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

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    College drinking is still alive and well...I live right down the street from a Liberal private college and the bars around here are quite lively. Many have closed because it is so much a pain in the ass.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    Do we really need an incident to happen before we acknowledge a potential threat? College now is much different then when I attended a large university and lived in a dorm. I am not sure if you remember the Michigan Murders, a serial killer who terrorized Eastern Michigan University in the late 60's. I attended in the early 80's and we had a couple of girls murdered in the woods, similar to what happened then. Never once did anyone suggest that girls should carry guns to protect themselves....we attended awareness classes and self defense..such as using the buddy system when walking around campus and a curfew was imposed for awhile. It worked.

    As far as rape...we are seeing a different kind of rape...these girls are either drugged or they drank too much and perhaps sent out the wrong message. Education is needed on how to prevent these situations from happening. You can't get drunk and make out and grind against another girl all night and expect the guy to think your a saint when sitting in their lap. LOL. This doesn't make date rape right, but it can be prevented.

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    Thank you... I firmly agree with you that some "behavior modification" is in order for some (many?) of our university young folks... for some reason when I suggest this I get blasted as a male chauvinist pig...

    But I am of the opinion that responsible 21yo+ college students with CCW should not be barred from carrying on campus. It has been done in a number of places successfully.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Thank you... I firmly agree with you that some "behavior modification" is in order for some (many?) of our university young folks... for some reason when I suggest this I get blasted as a male chauvinist pig...

    But I am of the opinion that responsible 21yo+ college students with CCW should not be barred from carrying on campus. It has been done in a number of places successfully.
    Well, the frat-daddies who party are a different student population, generally, than those likely to hold concealed-carry permits.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Thank you... I firmly agree with you that some "behavior modification" is in order for some (many?) of our university young folks... for some reason when I suggest this I get blasted as a male chauvinist pig...

    But I am of the opinion that responsible 21yo+ college students with CCW should not be barred from carrying on campus. It has been done in a number of places successfully.
    You should'nt be blasted as a pig because you have an opinion from experience. Who would do that? Men can speak their thoughts about rape. I am a college Professor and in control of my classroom...I don't want guns in the classroom...do I have a safety right to demand that? Right now, I do not teach where guns are allowed...signs are posted and so far...no incidences. I have been teaching in college since 1999. It could easily be said, no incidences no guns...just like the Colorado argument.

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