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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

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    Anyone with prior knowledge of the shooter's intent that didn't come forward should be charged as an accomplice. This was a disgusting act portrayed by a complete coward. These folks were good church going people who accepted all who came, the shooter exploited that, and unfortunately that was a play that worked for the dirtbag. I am not going to mince words, hell will be very eventful for the POS.
    I would agree. If someone knew he was going to do this and said nothing, they have some minor responsibility in the act, but one never really does know what someone will do.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

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    I would agree. If someone knew he was going to do this and said nothing, they have some minor responsibility in the act, but one never really does know what someone will do.
    True, I will say this. If I thought for half a second that someone I knew was going to commit a horrible act, I would absolutely alert the authorities. Worst case they get help and no innocents are harmed, I don't care if it's a friend or a blood relative, this is a responsibility too great to chance.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    I would think that the NRA should be completely condemning the shooter in this case. He is exactly what the NRA is against... an irresponsible and criminal gun user.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    The NRA is an utter joke and its blatantly obvious role as a lobbying organization for the arms industry is despicable.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I would think that the NRA should be completely condemning the shooter in this case. He is exactly what the NRA is against... an irresponsible and criminal gun user.
    I would guess this NRA executive has been pulled into a back room and read the riot act. Of the pro-2A groups they are the one I least respect but they still advocate responsible exercise. What this guy stated is beyond belief and honestly goes completely against the founding principles of the NRA, he is likely done for TBH. Anyone who is honestly pro-2A advocates responsible ownership and bearing. This shooting was abhorrent, disgusting, and no one should take anything from it but sorrow. This shooter is probably the one I most hate and that is saying something, while I am 100% on the side of legal carry, I advocate responsible use, and with that I also advocate ethical use of force, pretty much meaning only in defense, never to murder, and absolutely never using violence against the innocent.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The NRA stands in opposition to jackasses, morons, and douchebags that seize upon every possible opportunity to attempt to force new legislation and laws in the furtherance of their agenda. They protect the Constitutional freedoms of millions of Americans. If there wasnt the steady drumbeat of antigun rhetoric, the NRA would be relatively silent while promoting gun safety course and responsible gun ownership. When ****heads legislatively attack, they respond.

    This isnt the time for the NRA rep to have that discussion and he damn sure shouldnt have brought the concept of blame or responsibility into this. There is only one person responsible for this and he is currently under arrest.
    No, that is how they used to be. Today, the organization appeals to extremist views and ideology. They are not protecting anyone except the big $$$ gun manufactures.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I would think that the NRA should be completely condemning the shooter in this case. He is exactly what the NRA is against... an irresponsible and criminal gun user.
    No...this is all they care about today...

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

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    The NRA is the most vile and disgusting organization in this country. Who in the hell wants to carry a gun to worship in church and how could anyone suggest that. They use every tragic event to promote their insane ideology. This group appeals to militia idiots and skin heads.
    I've carried a gun in church before. No different then the grocery store or the national forest or what have you.

    I'm in neither a skin head not a militia member (actually under Washington law as a male citizen adult I technically am a member of the unorganized militia but still) I'm not even a republican, and I was a member for some time
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Anyone with prior knowledge of the shooter's intent that didn't come forward should be charged as an accomplice. This was a disgusting act portrayed by a complete coward. These folks were good church going people who accepted all who came, the shooter exploited that, and unfortunately that was a play that worked for the dirtbag. I am not going to mince words, hell will be very eventful for the POS.
    I can't agree with that, the law should not require people who are not police officers to affirmatively stop a crime.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I would guess this NRA executive has been pulled into a back room and read the riot act. Of the pro-2A groups they are the one I least respect but they still advocate responsible exercise. What this guy stated is beyond belief and honestly goes completely against the founding principles of the NRA, he is likely done for TBH. Anyone who is honestly pro-2A advocates responsible ownership and bearing. This shooting was abhorrent, disgusting, and no one should take anything from it but sorrow. This shooter is probably the one I most hate and that is saying something, while I am 100% on the side of legal carry, I advocate responsible use, and with that I also advocate ethical use of force, pretty much meaning only in defense, never to murder, and absolutely never using violence against the innocent.
    I agree. I fully support responsible gun ownership and usage. That is not what this was. If we want to go the "common sense" route, anyone, pro-gun or anti-gun should be able to see this for what it was. Supporting the 2A had nothing to do with this incident, nor did choosing not to own a gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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