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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    The NRA would be more appropriately name if it were NAMGLA: the North American Man Gun Love Association.
    Yes thats very clever.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    Well said....the problem I have is the paranoia from those who feel the need to carry in church or any other place. It is a attitude, "my dick is bigger than yours"...and this embarrasses the intelligent gun owners.
    Again, you are making a value judgement of rational behavior.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats your problem. You are inferring that someone recognizing reality and choosing to carry means they want to be a macho gunslinger. You are assigning values to actions based on a response to reality.

    Your emotion is clouding your judgement.
    Thank you Mr. Spock. Get off it - really - give it a rest. You have emotions. We all have emotions. And they effect you too. So get off this kick that everybody who disagrees with you is some emotional basket case. I simply do not want to live in an increasingly gun centric society. And if that implies that some of the more vocal and in your face open carry zealots are macho assholes trying to mask their own emotional or social issues - so be it.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But I view this open carry issue like viewing somebody else reproductive organs. Sorry - but keep them in your pants hidden and I do not want to see them in public. Get a CCW and carry out of the public view. And if your jacket slips open and somebody sees part of a pistol - we can deal with that short of changing the damn law so you can brandish a rifle on your back in public.
    Actually, in some ways you're looking for a solution without a problem. I live in one of the most gun-permissive states in the country (Mississippi). A person can legally own a machine gun here if he pays the federal transfer tax. We have open carry, concealed carry, castle doctrine, stand your ground, etc. Citizens can carry a gun legally in a tote or purse without the need of a permit. Same for an automobile. And yet I have yet to see anyone strapping a so-called assault rifle over his shoulder or pistol to his hip anywhere in public with the exception of a gun range. Unless you frequent pro-gun rallies or protests, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you Mr. Spock. Get off it - really - give it a rest. You have emotions. We all have emotions. And they effect you too. So get off this kick that everybody who disagrees with you is some emotional basket case. I simply do not want to live in an increasingly gun centric society. And if that implies that some of the more vocal and in your face open carry zealots are macho assholes trying to mask their own emotional or social issues - so be it.
    What you are saying is you prefer your feelings to the safety of others. Do we agree on this?

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Emanuel A.M.E. Church did not allow guns. We can all see how that turned out.
    You do not know if it would have made a dammed difference.
    And your point is- Weapons carried everywhere?

    Do not take this personally – The rest of the developed world just does not get America’s love affair with weapons.
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    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Cotton might be "insensitive" and a "monster," but he's got a point: Another mass shooting in a "gun free zone."
    Actually, this is one of those arguments that I find aggravatingly simplistic and nonsensical.

    If it is wrong to blame all gun owners and constitutional gun ownership rights for the criminal and mental actions of a few, why is it okay to blame someone who's a victim and who chose to exercise his rights by not having guns around for the criminal and mental actions in this incident?

    About time people stopped trying to find scapegoats on both sides of the argument and started dealing with the real issues here. Right now, in America, you have the most divided citizenry I've seen in a long time and rather than a new age of racial harmony since the election of President Obama, you seem to have greatly heightened racial tensions in many areas of your country. About time to temper the anger on all sides and get back to being civilized people who respect one another.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Actually, in some ways you're looking for a solution without a problem. I live in one of the most gun-permissive states in the country (Mississippi). A person can legally own a machine gun here if he pays the federal transfer tax. We have open carry, concealed carry, castle doctrine, stand your ground, etc. Citizens can carry a gun legally in a tote or purse without the need of a permit. Same for an automobile. And yet I have yet to see anyone strapping a so-called assault rifle over his shoulder or pistol to his hip anywhere in public with the exception of a gun range. Unless you frequent pro-gun rallies or protests, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
    That would depend on how you define what a problem is. When I see several busloads of school kids having to abandon a visit to the state capitol building that could have taught them a great deal and took a year to plan so that bunch of camp costumed doofuses can prance around with a "look at mine and how big it is" smart ass glare on their faces - yeah - to me thats a problem.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    What you are saying is you prefer your feelings to the safety of others. Do we agree on this?
    NO. We all have feelings. We all have emotions. We all use data and facts and experience to form our opinions. Those on the right are in no way different or special or exempt in this regard. So knock off with the right wing crap about deciding things with emotions. It is the height of conceit as it is simultaneously intended to both slap your perceived ideological enemy in the face and pat yourself on the back at the same time.
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    Re: NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Nursmate View Post
    Exactly, these folks are more dangerous to our 2A, than the criminals themselves. Their voices are louder. They are really embarrassing the folks who own guns because they bellow stupidity constantly. Guns a blazing mentality is just stupid.
    LOL that is idiotic. but thanks for proving what I already knew about your position-you hate the NRA more than criminals which is common among left-wingers. the stupidity is your pretense of what really annoys you.
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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