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    Uber Says Drivers and Passengers Banned From Carrying Guns

    So a couple of months ago an Uber driver with a concealed carry permit shoots someone who is firing a weapon at pedestrians in Chicago. What's Uber's response? Ban guns possessed by anyone--drivers or passengers--everywhere:


    Uber Technologies says it is banning firearms of any kind during rides arranged through the Uber platform, and drivers or riders who violate the rule may lose access to the platform. The rules also apply to Uber’s affiliates.


    Uber Banning Drivers & Passengers From Carrying Guns On All Rides « CBS San Francisco

    It would be interesting to see what would happen in my state (Mississippi) for a passenger with an enhanced concealed carry permit who enters an Uber vehicle:


    In Mississippi, permit holders that complete the training course and receive an endorsement can bring their handguns everywhere except for police stations, jails, courtrooms and federal property regardless of gun free zone signs.


    Governor Bryant signs new concealed carry bill | WREG.com

    I can see this hitting the courts.
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    Re: Uber Says Drivers and Passengers Banned From Carrying Guns

    And Mississippi should lose. Don't like a business that bans guns? Don't patronize that private establishment. I believe in the 2nd amendment, but that MS law goes too far. This bill sounds like it bans people from forbidding guns in their private homes.

    At the end of the day it's a MS concern and not mine.

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    Re: Uber Says Drivers and Passengers Banned From Carrying Guns

    I would just disobey the rule. If I ever had to draw my weapon it would mean that I was dealing with a situation much more dire than the possibility of losing my job.

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    Re: Uber Says Drivers and Passengers Banned From Carrying Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    And Mississippi should lose. Don't like a business that bans guns? Don't patronize that private establishment. I believe in the 2nd amendment, but that MS law goes too far. This bill sounds like it bans people from forbidding guns in their private homes.

    At the end of the day it's a MS concern and not mine.
    Well, in Mississippi a person's personal automobile is considered an extension of his home. Meanwhile, Uber maintains that its drivers are not employees but independent contractors. So if you're going to argue that the law is attempting to ban people from forbidding guns in their private homes (or their extensions), then what you're really saying is Uber can't forbid its drivers from possessing guns in their personal automobiles. You can't have it both ways. It would be like Tupperware telling its hosts to get rid of the guns in the bedroom lock boxes before hosting parties in their personal residences.
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    Re: Uber Says Drivers and Passengers Banned From Carrying Guns

    I don't agree with thier decision entirely but I support thier right to make the decision. A business should have the right to ban guns of they wish.
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    Re: Uber Says Drivers and Passengers Banned From Carrying Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I don't agree with thier decision entirely but I support thier right to make the decision. A business should have the right to ban guns of they wish.
    I think Uber should have left it well enough alone. Besides the legal points already mentioned, it's another nail in their argument that their drivers are not employees. Also, they might as well post a sign on every Uber vehicle that reads, "Rob me! I'm unarmed!"
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    Re: Uber Says Drivers and Passengers Banned From Carrying Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    I think Uber should have left it well enough alone. It's another nail in their argument that their drivers are not employees. Also, they might as well post a sign on every Uber vehicle that reads, "Rob me! I'm unarmed!"
    Like I said, I don't agree with thier decision, but otherwise is their right to make it.
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    Re: Uber Says Drivers and Passengers Banned From Carrying Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Like I said, I don't agree with thier decision, but otherwise is their right to make it.
    In a state like mine where a personal automobile is considered an extension of his home, no, I don't think they have that right. It should be up to the car's owner whether or not he wants to possess a gun, within the law, of course. If Uber doesn't like it, it can do business in another state which doesn't mind businesses telling its citizens that they can't have guns in their personal space.
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    Re: Uber Says Drivers and Passengers Banned From Carrying Guns

    I'm not sure how Uber works but how would they possibly enforce this? I thought it was just an app that people used to find rides?

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    Re: Uber Says Drivers and Passengers Banned From Carrying Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Well, in Mississippi a person's personal automobile is considered an extension of his home. Meanwhile, Uber maintains that its drivers are not employees but independent contractors. So if you're going to argue that the law is attempting to ban people from forbidding guns in their private homes (or their extensions), then what you're really saying is Uber can't forbid its drivers from possessing guns in their personal automobiles. You can't have it both ways. It would be like Tupperware telling its hosts to get rid of the guns in the bedroom lock boxes before hosting parties in their personal residences.
    No I didn't know Uber considered drivers independent contractors and not employees. That's different.

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