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    Obama’s Fast-Track Trade Bill Passes House in Second Attempt

    From Bloomberg.com:

    The U.S. House passed President Barack Obama’s fast-track trade bill, one of the president’s top second-term priorities, with mostly Republican votes a week after a Democratic rebellion almost killed the proposal.

    The 218-208 House vote Thursday returns the measure to the Senate, which also voted for it last month. Obama wants the expedited trade negotiating authority to help his administration complete a 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership.
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    It should be noted that the legislation in question is not a trade agreement. It concerns a process under which a trade agreement would be considered by Congress. In substance, it is similar to a closed rule, as there would be no amendments permitted and it would be subjected to a vote as is. Currently, negotiations remain underway and there is no Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement.

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    Re: Obama’s Fast-Track Trade Bill Passes House in Second Attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
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    It should be noted that the legislation in question is not a trade agreement. It concerns a process under which a trade agreement would be considered by Congress. In substance, it is similar to a closed rule, as there would be no amendments permitted and it would be subjected to a vote as is. Currently, negotiations remain underway and there is no Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement.
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    Re: Obama’s Fast-Track Trade Bill Passes House in Second Attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Very disappointed in the republican house.
    Same here Sawdust.....and we know McConnell will bend over willingly for BO.

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    Re: Obama’s Fast-Track Trade Bill Passes House in Second Attempt

    Right back to the Senate. Here's to hoping that McConnell can get it through!
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    Re: Obama’s Fast-Track Trade Bill Passes House in Second Attempt

    ....The measure would let Obama submit trade agreements to Congress for an expedited, up-or-down vote without amendments. It would give the authority to Obama and the next president for six years as part of a package that revamps U.S. trade policy into the next decade.

    That seems reasonable, imo. I do feel better knowing what they voted on. It would be funny if the Senate tries to attach an amendment to a bill about not attaching amendments. lol

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    Re: Obama’s Fast-Track Trade Bill Passes House in Second Attempt

    The only thing these trade agreements end up trading is American jobs, and debt. I challenge anyone to show me otherwise. To show me how any trade bill EVER has made our country better off. Stop trading away our country you political assholes!~


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    Re: Obama’s Fast-Track Trade Bill Passes House in Second Attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    The only thing these trade agreements end up trading is American jobs, and debt. I challenge anyone to show me otherwise. To show me how any trade bill EVER has made our country better off. Stop trading away our country you political assholes!~


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    Heya Hicup. All this does is get around public debate and congressional oversight. As all Congress would do is give an up and down vote. Moreover it allows the Executive to Control Congress' Voting Schedule. Funny how then Candidate BO said this was an anti democratic process and would get rid of it, huh?





    Fast Track
    An Undemocratic Path to Unfair "Trade"
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    Fast Track was an extreme and rarely-used procedure initially created by President Richard Nixon to get around public debate and congressional oversight. Fast Track is how we got into the job-killing, wage-flattening North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the World Trade Organization (WTO). Thanks to Fast Track, NAFTA and the WTO included terms that promote the offshoring of U.S. jobs to low-wage countries.

    Fast Track is such an extreme power grab that in the past 21 years Congress has only allowed it to go into effect for five years total. Why? Because under the U.S. Constitution, Congress is supposed to write the laws and set trade policy. For 200 years, these key checks and balances helped ensure that no one branch of government had too much power. But, starting with Nixon, presidents have tried to seize those congressional powers using the Fast Track mechanism.

    Fast Track allowed the executive branch to unilaterally select partner countries for "trade" pacts, decide the agreements' contents, and then negotiate and sign the agreements – all before Congress had a vote on the matter! Normal congressional committee processes were forbidden, meaning that the executive branch was empowered to write lengthy legislation on its own with no review or amendments. These executive-authored bills altered wide swaths of U.S. law unrelated to trade – food safety, immigration visas, energy policy, medicine patents and more – to conform our domestic policies to each agreement's requirements. And, remarkably, Fast Track let the executive branch control Congress' voting schedule. Unlike any other legislation, both the House and Senate were required to vote on a Fast Tracked trade agreement within 90 days of the White House submitting it. No floor amendments were allowed and debate was limited....snip~

    Fast Track - Presidential Trade Negotiating Authority

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    Re: Obama’s Fast-Track Trade Bill Passes House in Second Attempt

    Ross Perot nailed it on this stuff. The republicans are getting this one very very wrong.
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    Re: Obama’s Fast-Track Trade Bill Passes House in Second Attempt

    I'm pist !!!!
    My congressman Stutzman who wants to be my next Senator voted for this POS!!

    Guess I wont be voting for senator next year unless its Libertarian!!

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    Re: Obama’s Fast-Track Trade Bill Passes House in Second Attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
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    It should be noted that the legislation in question is not a trade agreement. It concerns a process under which a trade agreement would be considered by Congress. In substance, it is similar to a closed rule, as there would be no amendments permitted and it would be subjected to a vote as is. Currently, negotiations remain underway and there is no Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement.
    Wouldn't this legislation return the rule to what it was from 1977 to 2007?

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