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Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224:1119]

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Fenton said:
So blacks under the first black President are doing better or worse ?

Gun Violence in inner city areas run by Democrat monopolies for decades is increasing or decreasing ?

There's the typical and expected Democrat narratives and then there's the reality of effects of left wing policies and iniatives on minorities.

I prefer to exist in the real world.
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the rate of white gun violence in the USA is no higher than in those Eurosocialist white nations that have idiotic gun restrictions. Why is it that blacks-who have low levels of legal gun ownership compared to whites in this country-have so much higher rates of gun crime: especially in Democrat run cities with strict gun control? why do poor whites with easy access to guns in rural USA have so much lower rates of gun crime than blacks in areas with gun bans or severe gun restrictions. and that includes wealthy or middle class blacks?
 
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Threegoofs said:
Yeah. We could have like, 15000 peoples year get killed with guns if that happens.

Horrible.
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how many of those are suicides or people who are committing a federal felony by merely touching a gun killing other people with criminal records>
 
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tuhaybey said:
Oh, god, yes she totally, openly, is a white supremacist. Well, unless you mean that she is a "white nationalist" as opposed to a "white supremacist." Personally, I don't think those distinctions matter, but if they do matter to you, I'd be fine with categorizing her as a white nationalist instead if you prefer.

Ann Coulter
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That's neato how you can find links to support an ridiculous idea... let's see I can do it!


The Flat Earth Society
The Flat Out Truth!
Flat Earth Wiki | Ice Wall
The Flat Earth Bible

Yes that is FUN!
 
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tuhaybey said:
Stuff you read on Breitbart or hear callers on right wing hate radio say is not "the real world." It is a line of propaganda designed to enrage morons into hanging around long enough to rack up a lot of ad views and ratings. You seriously can't tell that? Come on.
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Breitbart ??

Lol !! Your'e so dependent on silly, shallow and insubstantial talking points you can't even answer a few questions. Or offer up a intelligent rebuttal.
 
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Threegoofs said:
Yeah. We could have like, 15000 peoples year get killed with guns if that happens.

Horrible.
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Huh ?

You being gun phobic sure isn't saving any lives either, nor would your suggestions for curbing Gun violence.
 
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TurtleDude said:
how many of those are suicides or people who are committing a federal felony by merely touching a gun killing other people with criminal records>
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Yeah. Less important dead people.

We have heard the drill.
 
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Threegoofs said:
Yeah. Less important dead people.

We have heard the drill.
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gun banners love lots of victims it seems. gun banners use the blood of victims to draft their next attacks on gun rights. One of the reasons why gun banners hate armed intended victims is that the body count of innocents is kept down when people can shoot back. and yes, in the great scheme of things, those who kill themselves or criminals who kill other criminals are not particularly good arguments to ban the rights of honest gun owners
 
Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

TurtleDude said:
gun banners love lots of victims it seems. gun banners use the blood of victims to draft their next attacks on gun rights. One of the reasons why gun banners hate armed intended victims is that the body count of innocents is kept down when people can shoot back. and yes, in the great scheme of things, those who kill themselves or criminals who kill other criminals are not particularly good arguments to ban the rights of honest gun owners
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I wasn't portraying certain gun victims as less than important....you were.

Twice.


And as you always make clear...the real victims aren't the dead ones, or the innumerable maimed ones. It's you.

Your rights are quite possibly going to be slightly (in a minor way) infringed. Oh the tragedy!
 
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ciarli said:
Those true police forces are the guardians of god(light) on earth. As I know those Africans are damned, as Germans and other blind races...
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Perhaps you could expand upon this? What exactly do you mean?
 
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tuhaybey said:
No, that isn't true at all. For example, in the last election before the Civil Rights Act in Mississippi, 75% of the population voted Democratic with virtually every white voting Democratic and virtually every black voting Republican. Then, the very next election, 75% of the population voted Republican, with nearly every white voting Republican and nearly every black voting Democratic. The Dixiecrats flipped parties overnight there. In other states, like Alabama, it was a slower process because a few Dixiecrats kept running as Democrats for a while, but obviously Alabama also ended up switching. The whole south did. Now, those same districts that were solid Dixiecrat are solid Tea Party.
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We were talking about politicians. You have lost on that argument so you are falling back to individual voters in the deep south. Racism in the deep south did not clear up overnight. We all get that even if you do not. The Civil Rights act started to turn things around, however white racism in the south was generational. Attitudes in regards to race have improved from one generation to the next. My point still stands. 80% of the dixiecrat politicians remained in the democrat party. Suggesting that they went republican enmasse is a bald faced lie. The real racism today in politics is buying votes with entitlement systems thatt keep minorities mired in poverty and the act of race baiting...for instance on the voter ID bill movement.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
We were talking about politicians. You have lost on that argument so you are falling back to individual voters in the deep south. Racism in the deep south did not clear up overnight. We all get that even if you do not. The Civil Rights act started to turn things around, however white racism in the south was generational. Attitudes in regards to race have improved from one generation to the next. My point still stands. 80% of the dixiecrat politicians remained in the democrat party. Suggesting that they went republican enmasse is a bald faced lie. The real racism today in politics is buying votes with entitlement systems thatt keep minorities mired in poverty and the act of race baiting...for instance on the voter ID bill movement.
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73% of Asians voted for Obama, and on average, use less "hand outs" than whites.

Your thoughts?
 
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Puigb said:
73% of Asians voted for Obama, and on average, use less "hand outs" than whites.

Your thoughts?
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Which has to nothing to do with my point. Obama is one politician. I am talking about the democrat party as a whole. House of reps and the senate included.
 
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Threegoofs said:
Hmm. But drug abuse and mental illness are just as prevalent in other developed countries.

You may be on to something about enforcing strict gun laws though. Maybe we should look at, say, Europe and see what they do.
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You seem obsessed with Europe. How about we just enforce the laws already on the books before trying new laws which probably will not be enforced either.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
You seem obsessed with Europe. How about we just enforce the laws already on the books before trying new laws which probably will not be enforced either.
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Obsessed? It's a large developed area with almost no gun violence? Why wouldn't a rational person look there for possible solutions?
 
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TurtleDude said:
gun banners love lots of victims it seems. gun banners use the blood of victims to draft their next attacks on gun rights. One of the reasons why gun banners hate armed intended victims is that the body count of innocents is kept down when people can shoot back. and yes, in the great scheme of things, those who kill themselves or criminals who kill other criminals are not particularly good arguments to ban the rights of honest gun owners
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Those suicides might be alive if that gun they used wasn't there. They all count in the death toll. If you get a suicidal impulse with a gun handy, you're gone before you can change your mind.
Gun lovers wade through the blood of innocent victims, braying of thier gun-love.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Those suicides might be alive if that gun they used wasn't there. They all count in the death toll. If you get a suicidal impulse with a gun handy, you're gone before you can change your mind.
Gun lovers wade through the blood of innocent victims, braying of thier gun-love.
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I don't care. you want to ban guns in a country you aren't even a citizen of. people like you pretend its about saving victims when its all about punishing lawful gun owners.
 
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Threegoofs said:
Obsessed? It's a large developed area with almost no gun violence? Why wouldn't a rational person look there for possible solutions?
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why don't you come out and say you want European style gun bans in the USA even though there is no evidence they would work here. but what they will do is harass lawful gun owners which many of us suspect is the real goal of so many gun restrictionists who shed crocodile tears over dead victims
 
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TurtleDude said:
why don't you come out and say you want European style gun bans in the USA even though there is no evidence they would work here. but what they will do is harass lawful gun owners which many of us suspect is the real goal of so many gun restrictionists who shed crocodile tears over dead victims
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Such a victim.

I never said I want European style gun bans. But I guess you must have noticed that they are working very well over there, huh?
 
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TurtleDude said:
I don't care. you want to ban guns in a country you aren't even a citizen of. people like you pretend its about saving victims when its all about punishing lawful gun owners.
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While I have no interest in banning guns, it's a pretty weak argument that those who do hold the sole goal of inconveniencing you, rather than actually hoping to reduce the body count.
 
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Kobie said:
While I have no interest in banning guns, it's a pretty weak argument that those who do hold the sole goal of inconveniencing you, rather than actually hoping to reduce the body count.
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well it has been proven. The Hughes amendment was nothing about crime control but spite. and since its illegal for any felon to have any gun, stuff like "assault weapon bans" are clearly designed to harass lawful gun owners. same with Magazine bans or waiting periods

now some politicians push these bans to pander to the low IQ or low information Sheeple and don't really care about other matters. But there is no doubt that politicians like Feinstein, Biden, and Schemer-Its about trying to hurt the NRA

once again, the Hughes Amendment proved my argument-and it cannot be rebutted
 
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TurtleDude said:
well it has been proven. The Hughes amendment was nothing about crime control but spite. and since its illegal for any felon to have any gun, stuff like "assault weapon bans" are clearly designed to harass lawful gun owners. same with Magazine bans or waiting periods

now some politicians push these bans to pander to the low IQ or low information Sheeple and don't really care about other matters. But there is no doubt that politicians like Feinstein, Biden, and Schemer-Its about trying to hurt the NRA

once again, the Hughes Amendment proved my argument-and it cannot be rebutted
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Ronald Reagan was a real gun banning nut, huh?

And while the megalomaniacal angle suits you well, I'm pretty sure it hasn't been 'proven' that the entire point of Hughes was to inconvenience you and you gun buddies.
 
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Threegoofs said:
Ronald Reagan was a real gun banning nut, huh?

And while the megalomaniacal angle suits you well, I'm pretty sure it hasn't been 'proven' that the entire point of Hughes was to inconvenience you and you gun buddies.
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why are you derailing this point with your Reagan comment.

the purpose of the Hughes amendment was to derail a pro gun bill

there was no evidence of it being needed to prevent crimes that weren't happening
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Those suicides might be alive if that gun they used wasn't there. They all count in the death toll. If you get a suicidal impulse with a gun handy, you're gone before you can change your mind.
Gun lovers wade through the blood of innocent victims, braying of thier gun-love.
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If the Daily Mail is to be believed, Brits are extremely creative in the ways they commit suicide. In the absence of guns, those intent on killing themselves do seem to find a way--throwing themselves off roofs and etc.
 
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TurtleDude said:
well it has been proven. The Hughes amendment was nothing about crime control but spite. and since its illegal for any felon to have any gun, stuff like "assault weapon bans" are clearly designed to harass lawful gun owners. same with Magazine bans or waiting periods

now some politicians push these bans to pander to the low IQ or low information Sheeple and don't really care about other matters. But there is no doubt that politicians like Feinstein, Biden, and Schemer-Its about trying to hurt the NRA

once again, the Hughes Amendment proved my argument-and it cannot be rebutted
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Repeating the claim doesn't make it more true.

What about the Hughes Amendment proves your theory?
 
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nota bene said:
If the Daily Mail is to be believed, Brits are extremely creative in the ways they commit suicide. In the absence of guns, those intent on killing themselves do seem to find a way--throwing themselves off roofs and etc.
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Eh, the Daily Mail will run the more sensational stuff, but anecdotes aren't data.
 
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