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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    We know that. Its probably the best source available to support his position
    ...which you still remain willfully ignorant of.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    You just wallow in victimhood.
    your posts fail to actually respond to points and instead they engage in irrelevant. and its amusing that you just don't get it. When you spend so much time insulting and ridiculing lawful gun owners, its rather hard to pretend your motivations are actually based on some legitimate desire to increase public safety. Rather, your posts exemplify what i have said all along: your position is based on a disgust for the politics of pro gun advocates and your hatred of the NRA's lobbying efforts

    that's why your posts have yet to proffer a legitimate solution for crime issues
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Racer View Post
    As a human being my heart goes out to the victims and their families. What a senseless tragedy. I have a difficult time figuring out why one human being would do this to another innocent human being. I hope the families find peace.

    As a Conservative I can tell you that this act is not in my description of conservative ideals. I am no way a doctor but I can say in my opinion anyone who would treat another person in this manner has a serious mental issue. Whatever that issue is should NOT keep this person from facing the full hand of justice. Whether that be death or life in prison. Preferably death considering the wake of misery this guy has left behind. If not death then a long drawn out miserable life sentence where the inmates dole out the justice.

    Whether the crime is white on black or black on white the senseless nature of these sort of crimes should infuriate us all equally.
    Well said and worth reposting.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    again, when the proponents of gun restrictions spend so much time ridiculing gun owners and their hatred is generally directed at lawful gun owners and the NRA, its rather unconvincing when you all pretend that its crime control you really want
    and when the proponents of unlimited gun ownership spend so much time ridiculing those who would like to see some rationality inserted into the national debate, and when the NRA appears to be little more than a lobbying agency for gun manufacturers, it is rather unconvincing when you pretend that imposing any restrictions on gun ownership is the equivalent of imposing a dictatorship on Americans.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    ...which you still remain willfully ignorant of.
    no, I reject that silly parody that you seem to put all your cards in. Several others have argued why your citation was stupid and the best you can do is pretend we "didn't get it"

    what we get is you want to ridicule gun ownership without having any argument what should have been done different
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    and when the proponents of unlimited gun ownership spend so much time ridiculing those who would like to see some rationality inserted into the national debate, and when the NRA appears to be little more than a lobbying agency for gun manufacturers, it is rather unconvincing when you pretend that imposing any restrictions on gun ownership is the equivalent of imposing a dictatorship on Americans.

    so much fail in that comment

    no one is in favor of "unlimited gun ownership"

    there is nothing rational about wanting laws that harass lawful gun owners and has absolutely no chance of deterring people willing to commit multiple counts of capital murder

    your NRA comment proves what I have been saying: left-wingers are more upset that the NRA helps defeat socialist and collectivist candidates and that is why almost all the gun rights bashers are left wingers,

    and you have a duty to prove the laws you want are both constitutional and are actually intended to stop criminals-the duty is not on us to show why they are stupid

    since you all have yet to meet either test, your complaints are poorly chosen
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    The real world says the anti gun control folks refuse to acknowledge the multiple studies and examples that counter their position. It is impossible to "meet the test" when the goalpost are mounted on a highpowered moving van.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    It was most definitely a racist attack.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Again, why present solutions when you can't recognize the problem?

    What's YOUR solution?
    I asked you. What sort of new gun control regulation would have stopped this from happening?

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Where did I paint an "entire ideology" as racist? 'Scuse you, but I never did so.

    Where did I EVER say or even imply that "every conflict is racism"? 'Scuse you, but I never did so.

    Both of those are just you wanting to assign your assumptions to me...and both are flat wrong.

    I pointed out at length prime examples of how racism is part and parcel of politics and society in the Deep South - and it's hard to believe that you now know that Mississippi didn't ratify the 13th Amendment until 2013 - TWO freaking years ago - and yet still maintain that racism doesn't play a significant role in Southern politics! Apparently, this is yet another manifestation of the modern conservative stance that if you pretend racism doesn't exist, sooner or later it will magically go away all on its lonesome.

    But I guess it's like the old saying - you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
    My mistake - I foolishly took your previous comments to be your views and not just trolling. Perhaps my mistake came from your comments in post #584 where you claimed that most whites in the south "accept" racism. Or perhaps my mistake stems from your comments in post #600 where you claimed that conservative politics makes these tragedies more likely and that in the case of this tragedy conservative politics were "almost certainly" involved.

    In future, I'll be sure simply to ignore such comments as these since you like to ignore them as well after you've posted them.
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