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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And that sounds like a bunch of bigotry to me. You get nowhere in dealing with racism when you paint an entire region of your country and everyone who lives there as ingrained with, understanding, and tolerant of racism.
    It is bigotry.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Thank you.


    I don't know what "SC" that ... person.. is talking about... but THIS is MY South Carolina...



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    All local pics...
    You are an amazingly patient man.

    Those are great pics. I've been to SC many times and saw exactly what you posted here. However, when a poster has an agenda, posts like yours go whoosh right over the head.

    I really love that pic of the musicians.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Your comment offers nothing other than bigotry.
    It's not bigotry to say that right wing conservatism has a racism problem. Again to reiterate, being a right wing conservative doesn't make you a racist. However, its' hard to deny that the vast majority of white racists are right wing conservatives. Furthermore, it's hard to deny that right wing conservatism caters to racists.

    There IS a racism problem inside right wing conservative circles just like there's a terrorism problem within fundamentalist Islam.


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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Only in the minds of liberals with a need to attack conservatives are the actions and statements of the alleged killer here fantasized as political. We could just as easily discuss the possibility that young men who have their hair cut using cereal bowls as a guide are prone to mass murder.

    His comments, in my view, were those of a white supremacist who seemed to have grievances against black people, grievances personal to him. Where's the political agenda that he was advancing in what he did and what is known at this time?
    He wanted to cause a race war and to promote segregation. That's political.

    His cause was at least as political as the Boston Marathon bombings. Why would you view this as a different type of act?

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Again to reiterate, being a right wing conservative doesn't make you a racist. However, its' hard to deny that the vast majority of white racists are right wing conservatives.

    There IS a racism problem inside right wing conservative circles just like there's a terrorism problem within fundamentalist Islam.
    I would agree with this.

    Furthermore, it's hard to deny that right wing conservatism caters to racists.
    I would deny this. By far the majority of conservatives are not white racists and do not cater to them.

    I would agree that most white racists tend to conservative in their lean, however, I would also state that most terrorists overall (which white supremists are) tend to lean left. You can find plenty of both. Extremism is extremism regardless of your lean.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You are an amazingly patient man.

    Those are great pics. I've been to SC many times and saw exactly what you posted here. However, when a poster has an agenda, posts like yours go whoosh right over the head.

    I really love that pic of the musicians.


    Thanks. The pics are all from the "Spring Fling" street festival we have annually.

    I'm somewhat plugged into the indie music scene through my youngest niece, who does vocals, keyboard and flute for a popular regional band, as well as sometimes playing with other indie groups.

    Our area is rich in history and local culture, as well as technologically progressive and diverse. We have large populations of Hispanics, Indians (as in Hindi), and Asians (mostly Viet, Hmong and Cambodians), as well as more modest quantities of Jewish and Middle-eastern peoples. Over a quarter of the state's population is black, as well. Racially motivated incidents have been very rare in my home county for many years now, and the haters have either got their minds right or hidden under a log somewhere, we don't put up with that crap anymore.

    We have centers for the arts, and museums of history and science and culture. We have plays and musicals from Broadway and around the world in the auditorium one town over. The downtown area has been revitalized and is now a center of business, culture and music.

    Drive out of town 30 minutes and you're seeing cow pastures, cotton fields, wide stretches of deep green forest land, rivers and hills and farms and small towns. That's where I live.


    We have some problems, sure... no place is perfect... but I love it here.


    Just wish it wasn't so gall-darn hot in the summer.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Thanks. The pics are all from the "Spring Fling" street festival we have annually.

    I'm somewhat plugged into the indie music scene through my youngest niece, who does vocals, keyboard and flute for a popular regional band, as well as sometimes playing with other indie groups.

    Our area is rich in history and local culture, as well as technologically progressive and diverse. We have large populations of Hispanics, Indians (as in Hindi), and Asians (mostly Viet, Hmong and Cambodians), as well as more modest quantities of Jewish and Middle-eastern peoples. Over a quarter of the state's population is black, as well. Racially motivated incidents have been very rare in my home county for many years now, and the haters have either got their minds right or hidden under a log somewhere, we don't put up with that crap anymore.

    We have centers for the arts, and museums of history and science and culture. We have plays and musicals from Broadway and around the world in the auditorium one town over. The downtown area has been revitalized and is now a center of business, culture and music.

    Drive out of town 30 minutes and you're seeing cow pastures, cotton fields, wide stretches of deep green forest land, rivers and hills and farms and small towns. That's where I live.


    We have some problems, sure... no place is perfect... but I love it here.


    Just wish it wasn't so gall-darn hot in the summer.
    It's a great state for sure, and I love how you describe it. It's hot, true - too hot for me. But in terms of being welcoming to business travelers, and things to see as a tourist, it's one of the best this country has to offer.

    And yep, of course there are racists. I live 20 miles from the Massachusetts border, and 50 miles from the Vermont border. There are racists in both of those uber-Liberal states. They're everywhere.

    It bothers me to see a lovely state with great people get denigrated in the way that some people seem determined to do.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I would agree with this.



    I would deny this. By far the majority of conservatives are not white racists and do not cater to them.

    I would agree that most white racists tend to conservative in their lean, however, I would also state that most terrorists overall (which white supremists are) tend to lean left. You can find plenty of both. Extremism is extremism regardless of your lean.
    Oh, I fully agree that the majority of right wing conservatives don't cater to racists. What I should have said is that there are leaders in the conservative movement that do. Hence the confederate flag hanging on the capitol in South Carolina and much of the "dog whistle" politicking that happens. These leaders by in large aren't racists, but they're willing to use racism to gain votes. THAT.. has to stop.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Again to reiterate, being a right wing conservative doesn't make you a racist. However, its' hard to deny that the vast majority of white racists are right wing conservatives. Furthermore, it's hard to deny that right wing conservatism caters to racists.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post

    Despite the image SC officials are trying to portray to the rest of the country, the perp who shot up the church will be hailed as a hero by most of the Whites living in SC.
    Absolute bull****.

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