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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    The onion? And even more than that, an Onion article that offers a grand total of 0 solutions.
    One more poster looks up and sees the point going over their head.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    You can't call it "effective gun control" when there's more guns than people. You can't call it "effective gun control" when the most common reaction to "only" one or two people getting shot on the street is a yawn.

    As I stated in my post, there is NO instance where effective gun control in a democracy brought about tyranny, and there is NO instance where lack of gun control brought about that "polite society". Such things are only in your fantasies, because in REAL LIFE, effective gun control brings about MORE peaceful societies, where people don't have to be afraid to walk down the street at night. In REAL LIFE, a glaring lack of gun control results in more violent societies - always has, alway will.

    So you have a choice - you can choose to believe the fantasies fed you by the right-wing echo chamber...or you can choose to believe what has actually happened in democracies with effective gun control and in nations without effective gun control.

    Try basing your beliefs on real-world data - with a realization that people are people are people all over the world - and you'll find something completely different than what the gun-manufacturing-industry spokespeople at the NRA would have you believe.
    complete nonsense. your numbers game is based on false premises that good people having lots of guns is a problem. and your calls for gun control are based on your dislike of the politics of the people you perceive to be gun owners. and when we ask you what would be "effective gun control" you don't answer with solutions to criminals or nutcases getting guns but you want stuff that harasses law abiding gun owners-which of course is the goal of those who push gun control for political paybacks

    your comments about the NRA is the standard nonsense from ban guns inc-trying to pretend the NRA is a spokesman for the gun industry--this is both false and the standard talking point of the brady bunch etc
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    That reminds me, Ted Bundy worked for the RNC in Seattle. Both Gacy and Bundy were serial killers which is different breed in itself. But hey, nice try at deflection and moving the goal posts. Wanna see a list for Republican sex offenders?
    that is a worthless response. Bundy worked for the GOP, Gacy was actually an official and the point was, that there are plenty of LW serial killers. and the group that kills the most people illegally also votes democrat 95% of the time

    but lets stick to the topic. blaming any group for this murderer is premature
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    One more poster looks up and sees the point going over their head.
    You were asked "remind us of what law would have stopped that since you want to make this into a gun ban issue" you posted an article from the onion. An article from the onion that doesn't address his question to you what so ever, and adds absolutely nothing to your gun control argument, and offers 0 solutions.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    You say that, but where are all these whites hailing him as a hero? Goshin, I think its Goshin, lives there.
    He is one person. I said the majority of Whites there are racist, even if he isn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    And has already stated in this thread that everyone down there he has heard from, talked to has condemned this attack, even specifically mentioned rednecks condemning this in an earlier post.
    Sorry, personal acquaintances are not a representative sample of the White population in SC.

    For example, I grew up in AZ, and the majority of people I knew there while I went to Jr. High, High School, etc. did not harbor any hatred or resentment toward Latinos.

    However, it would be foolish of me to deny that the majority of Whites in AZ are undocumented immigrant bashers.

    What is known is the evidence that's been documented and made public--that SC has one of the highest number of anti-immigrant/racist groups operating in the state. . .

    South Carolina is home to 19 known hate groups — including two factions of the Ku Klux Klan and four "white nationalist" organizations, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

    Charleston Church Shooting: KKK, White Supremacists Operate in South Carolina - NBC News
    We also know that SC is a state where police officers are allowed to shoot any Black person anytime of their choosing, w/out facing any repercussions (unless, of course, one of them is unfortunate enough to be caught on a videocam that the mainstream media later picks up on).

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Your view of people in the south is clearly twisted. Turn off the tv, and go to SC. Meet the people there.
    I myself am not White, so I wouldn't dare set foot in a place like that. I'd likely be arrested for walking on the sidewalk the first day.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    That reminds me, Ted Bundy worked for the RNC in Seattle. Both Gacy and Bundy were serial killers which is different breed in itself. But hey, nice try at deflection and moving the goal posts. Wanna see a list for Republican sex offenders?
    Are you really trying to pin rapes and murders on a single political affiliation? You could come up with huge lists from either side for any crime. What is the point of this?
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    He is one person. I said the majority of Whites there are racist, even if he isn't.



    Sorry, personal acquaintances are not a representative sample of the White population in SC.

    For example, I grew up in AZ, and the majority of people I knew there while I went to Jr. High, High School, etc. did not harbor any hatred or resentment toward Latinos.

    However, it would be foolish of me to deny that the majority of Whites in AZ are undocumented immigrant bashers.

    What is known is the evidence that's been documented and made public--that SC has one of the highest number of anti-immigrant/racist groups operating in the state. . .



    We also know that SC is a state where police officers are allowed to shoot any Black person anytime of their choosing, w/out facing any repercussions (unless, of course, one of them is unfortunate enough to be caught on a videocam that the mainstream media later picks up on).



    I myself am not White, so I wouldn't dare set foot in a place like that. I'd likely be arrested for walking on the sidewalk the first day.
    Please support those statements. Hell, please support any of those statements. SC is a fine state. You are delusional if you believe that most white people in SC are racist.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    One more poster looks up and sees the point going over their head.
    The point is that nine innocent people who were studying the Bible and sharing the Word with this sick young man were then summarily executed in God's house. They haven't even been buried yet, and yet partisans can't wait to point fingers and to gore others' oxen.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Well actually you should write legislation for gun control groups, any law written as you're proposing would be struck down as unconstitutionally vague.

    Game? I just offered a compromise measure to your more extreme ideas, from a country with among the lowest homicode rates in the world. See you wonder why it's rare any gun legislation gets passed, this is exhibit A.

    However I think I made my point, you're now suggesting banning ordinary rifles while terming them "sniper rifles" because the M-24 is only a hunting rifle with a bipod and lightened trigger. You can't possibly ban that without banning the parent rifle, not in any way that won't get tossed void for vagueness
    anyone who understands the issue knows there is no possible way to ban "sniper rifles" without banning long range target rifles, varmint rifles, pronghorn hunters' rifles etc. and yes, the anti gun movement wants to ban all of those. But I don't know why Glen is complaining about such rifles when the mope in question used a handgun to kill in this case
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    One more poster looks up and sees the point going over their head.
    actually he understood your "point" perfectly. Your posts have no solutions to this problem and quoting the Onion-which had no solutions other than suggesting Euro-style gun bans would work-proved that
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