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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Agreed.

    This incident is just so appalling on many levels. In and of itself it was just terrible. We haven't had anything like this happen in the state in some time, and this was just... words don't suffice.


    But on another level, after that terrible police shooting (murder) in Charleston a few weeks ago, and now this... I'm hoping it doesn't have a major negative impact on race relations in my state.

    We've come so far in the past couple decades. I remember how things were 30-40 years ago... and how they are today, with blacks and whites living and working side by side, with so much more acceptance for everyone in most places... white grandparents in their 70s walking around Walmart holding their mixed race grandchildren, you wouldn't have seen that 25 years ago. We've come so far, and we've been getting along so well... I don't want this to ruin it all, dammit.
    I think most people realize that this is plain evil and does not represent all whites or all young people or all males.

    I just want to know that if what being reported is the .45 caliber pistol was a birthday present from his father is true. If it was, why did he think the perfect gift for a 9th grade dropout without any desire to work and been arrested for possession of a controlled substance would be a gun?

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    I think most people realize that this is plain evil and does not represent all whites or all young people or all males.

    I just want to know that if what being reported is the .45 caliber pistol was a birthday present from his father is true. If it was, why did he think the perfect gift for a 9th grade dropout without any desire to work and been arrested for possession of a controlled substance would be a gun?
    sounds like the fruit didn't fall too far from the tree if that is true
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    I think most people realize that this is plain evil and does not represent all whites or all young people or all males.

    I just want to know that if what being reported is the .45 caliber pistol was a birthday present from his father is true. If it was, why did he think the perfect gift for a 9th grade dropout without any desire to work and been arrested for possession of a controlled substance would be a gun?

    I'm just guessing, but right now I'm figuring the father for an idiot.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Well, at least we can all agree that this crime had nothing to do with guns and easy gun availability.

    Nothing at all. Nope.

    It's certainly not part of a larger pattern of nutbags getting access to deadly weapons easily.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Well, at least we can all agree that this crime had nothing to do with guns and easy gun availability.

    Nothing at all. Nope.

    It's certainly not part of a larger pattern of nutbags getting access to deadly weapons easily.
    remind us of what law would have stopped that since you want to make this into a gun ban issue
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Well, at least we can all agree that this crime had nothing to do with guns and easy gun availability.

    Nothing at all. Nope.

    It's certainly not part of a larger pattern of nutbags getting access to deadly weapons easily.



    Name any new gun control law that has been proposed in the past decade that would have actually prevented this.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Name any new gun control law that has been proposed in the past decade that would have actually prevented this.
    Oh no.

    We can't talk about this.

    It's too early.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The main difference is that left wing terrorists in this country usually just attack property whereas right wing terrorists attack people.
    Lefist terror groups such as the Black Panthers and SLA were willing to harm people.

    The main difference is that leftist economics is a fundamentally flawed system. As a result, there is very little interest in leftist economic systems and the hard core leftist extremists cannot replace themselves. Most are now 60 plus years old and there are very few new Black Panthers and SLA types willing to continue the "struggle".

    Meanwhile, right wing economics is not a failed system and there are many people interested in right wing economic theories. a small number turn to extremist groups. Right wing extremists can replace themselves- but only to degree (once there were tens of thousands of hard core KKK types. Today, there are probably only several hundred truly committed members). Thus, as there are more right wing terrorists out there, there is more right wing violence against individuals.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Name any new gun control law that has been proposed in the past decade that would have actually prevented this.
    of course the answer is none. but the gun banners will hem and haw and try to smear gun owners and blame us for this yet again
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so spiking trees so loggers get injured is attacking property? blowing up people as the uni-bomber did was property? I don't think your attempt to differentiate one species of asshole from another is particularly convincing

    Really, and how many loggers have been injured and/or killed from tree spiking?


    "...One injury possibly from tree spiking occurred in the United States in 1987. California mill worker George Alexander was seriously injured when the bandsaw he was operating was shattered by either an old nail or a tree spike. This led many progressive Earth First! groups to denounce tree spiking.[1] Other activists[citation needed] were led to either reject this form of sabotage entirely, or take some precautions, such as putting warning signs in the area where the trees are being spiked. Tree spiking is condemned by opponents of eco-terrorism who claim it is potentially dangerous to loggers or mill-workers,[2] although only this one injury possibly resulting from tree spiking has been widely reported.[1]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_spiking


    "...In fact, since 9/11 extremists affiliated with a variety of far-right wing ideologies, including white supremacists, anti-abortion extremists and anti-government militants, have killed more people in the United States than have extremists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology. According to a count by the New America Foundation, right wing extremists have killed 34 people in the United States for political reasons since 9/11. (The total includes the latest shootings in Kansas, which are being classified as a hate crime).

    By contrast, terrorists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology have killed 21 people in the United States since 9/11.

    (Although a variety of left wing militants and environmental extremists have carried out violent attacks for political reasons against property and individuals since 9/11, none have been linked to a lethal attack, according to research by the New America Foundation.)

    Moreover, since 9/11 none of the more than 200 individuals indicted or convicted in the United States of some act of jihadist terrorism have acquired or used chemical or biological weapons or their precursor materials, while 13 individuals motivated by right wing extremist ideology, one individual motivated by left-wing extremist ideology, and two with idiosyncratic beliefs, used or acquired such weapons or their precursors...."

    Opinion: In U.S., right wing extremists more deadly than jihadists - CNN.com


    Like I said, leftwing terrorists usually just attack property and rightwing terrorists usually just attack people.

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