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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    Wanting to curb violence and actually curbing violence are not the same thing. Gun control has NEVER EVER EVER TIMES A BILLION curbed violence.

    Perhaps I should call it an Insanity Agenda? Gun control certainly fits the dictionary definition.



    Curbing violence isnt the agenda anyway.....curbing civilian firearm ownership is. Hence why Bozo made executive action to stop WWII M1 Garand rifles from being shipped back to the states. When is the last time you hear someone getting shot by one of those?
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    When black people kill white people the blacks are "thugs" or "terrorists." When white people kill blacks the whites are "mentally disturbed."
    Well the shooter at the Navy Yard was black (the only blac spree killer I can think of) and I don't think anyone ever called him a thug, that was big mental illness conversation too
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

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    I was just playing world at war?
    ha, exactly.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Yet again your far right label for me is painfully inaccurate - I am quite moderate.

    The problem with these damn shootings is that I have never seen an in-depth analysis delving into the actual causes..
    Then lets get serious and investigate.

    There will always be more than one cause.
    Yes, I agree. But in the cases where extremist beliefs cause one to be detached from reality and acts like this result - it must be examined thoroughly.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Well in that case I hope they don't accidentally get the wrong guy...

    I'm white and clean shaven and I'm sure many people are. That's hardly a start and with that being said there are quite a good amount of possible perpetrators.
    Now wait a second. Just because we know that the attacker is likely a white male of a certain age, doesn't mean we should be racist a start profiling.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I could not possibly disagree with you more vehemently.

    You can disagree all you want...but the media is the problem. Stop paying attention to their sensationalism.



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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Well the shooter at the Navy Yard was black (the only blac spree killer I can think of) and I don't think anyone ever called him a thug, that was big mental illness conversation too
    DC sniper was black as well

    and then there was the Atlanta child killer-I believe the person claimed to be the killer-Wayne Williams or something like that was black. "thug" was originally a british term for indian killers based on a murder cult "Thuggee"
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You can disagree all you want...but the media is the problem. Stop paying attention to their sensationalism.
    If you are a white person, then you have the privilege to say that. You have the privilege of turning off the TV or staying away from news websites, and for you, the problem will go away.

    Blacks do not have this privilege. Their lives are directly, negatively impacted by racism in media. So no, until that racism is acknowledged, addressed, and cure, then no, this issue is not going to go away.

    Why can't they?
    Well that is the million-dollar question! Why haven't they moved on from a time when we have been bombarded with messages, overt and covert, that blacks and Latinos are somehow "less than" whites, whether that comes to violence, money management, personal responsibility, or anything else?

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by WSUwarrior View Post
    Wanting to curb violence and actually curbing violence are not the same thing. Gun control has NEVER EVER EVER TIMES A BILLION curbed violence.
    Except for all the times that it has. All one need do is look at the rest of the world. It's simple logic - if "an armed society is a polite society" as some want to claim, then the nations with the LEAST gun control would be the least violent, right? Right. But NOWHERE is this the case.

    Conversely, if strong gun control leads to tyranny (as many DP gun 'enthusiasts' claim), then this should be the case in most (if not all) democracies that have strong EFFECTIVE gun control (as opposed to those nations which have strong gun control on the books, but such gun control is not enforced e.g. Mexico). But how many democracies which have strong effective gun control have devolved into tyranny? None that I can think of. And one cannot point to, say, those American cities which have strong gun control laws on the books, because those laws are not enforceable - all one need do is to bring a car full of guns legally bought the next state over.

    In other words, anyone who claims that EFFECTIVE gun control never curbs violence, or that everyone having lots of guns does curb violence...simply isn't paying attention to the world around them. They are arguing against the reality of the RESULTS of effective gun control (or the lack thereof) in all the democracies of the world around us.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Except for all the times that it has. All one need do is look at the rest of the world. It's simple logic - if "an armed society is a polite society" as some want to claim, then the nations with the LEAST gun control would be the least violent, right? Right. But NOWHERE is this the case.

    Conversely, if strong gun control leads to tyranny (as many DP gun 'enthusiasts' claim), then this should be the case in most (if not all) democracies that have strong EFFECTIVE gun control (as opposed to those nations which have strong gun control on the books, but such gun control is not enforced e.g. Mexico). But how many democracies which have strong effective gun control have devolved into tyranny? None that I can think of. And one cannot point to, say, those American cities which have strong gun control laws on the books, because those laws are not enforceable - all one need do is to bring a car full of guns legally bought the next state over.

    In other words, anyone who claims that EFFECTIVE gun control never curbs violence, or that everyone having lots of guns does curb violence...simply isn't paying attention to the world around them. They are arguing against the reality of the RESULTS of effective gun control (or the lack thereof) in all the democracies of the world around us.
    Yep, Gun Control has worked wonders in places like Baltimore, Detroit, Washington DC , St Louis and Chicago... .

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