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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The options available to police are nearly identical as they concern use of tactics and escalations. That is what YOUR article shows. The resolution to these incidents is nearly indentical, once again ACROSS THE BOARD and in spite of "many factors". That demonstrates without a doubt that if we can have situations where cops can apprehend dangerous and armed suspects without violence, there is absolutely no reason for them to not be able to deal with 13 year olds and their toys. Are we done here? Or are you going to make another post where you simply go on and on without an actual point?
    That's an amusing tactic. When you don't like the point made by another - pretend it doesn't exist.

    Go ahead and keep trying to portray Rice's killing in a larger conspiracy theorist light, rather than the localized and isolated event it really was. I think others can clearly see what's going on.

    We're done here.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Funny how right wingers love to say Muslims are threats yet more people in America have been killed by right wing attacks than Muslim extremists since 9/11. Condolences to the victims.
    Actually with rare exception the mass shooters have turned out to be leftwingers.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    As we struggle to answer this question and to make sense of this latest mass killing, I am going to ask some difficult but necessary questions to everyone:

    1. Had all of the events prior to and during this mass killing been exactly the same, with the sole difference that Roof had been a nonwhite Muslim, then how would the language of and the coverage by major US media outlets have been different?
    2. Had all of the events prior to and during this mass killing been exactly the same, including the media coverage, with the sole difference that Roof had been a nonwhite Muslim, then how, if at all, would your personal response to this tragedy have been any different?

    You don't have to reply to this post. You don't have to answer these questions right now. But I do want y'all to think them over.
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    1. We need to stop giving a damn about the media's language.
    2. It wouldn't have been any different. Whether you call it terrorism, mass murder, shooting spree, etc....the victims are dead. We should be focusing on the crime, not the politics.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    the gunman reloaded fives times and told a victim, “I have to do it. You rape our women and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go.”

    Cousin of Charleston Pastor: Shooter Said
    Gee, sounds like a hate crime to me. But then I'm one of those dreaded 'liberals', and you know how we are.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    That's an amusing tactic. When you don't like the point made by another - pretend it doesn't exist.
    Wake up and recognize there was never a point from you. I made a statement, you didn't like it, then substantiated it with your own sources showing that my statement was in fact correct. Move along? K thanks.

    Go ahead and keep trying to portray Rice's killing in a larger conspiracy theorist light, rather than the localized and isolated event it really was. I think others can clearly see what's going on.

    We're done here.
    Lol, conspiracy theorist? There is no conspiracy theory. You just don't like what I stated and then proved it correct. Do you know what a conspiracy is?
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Someone in another section posted a link to a Daily Beast piece opining that the GOP contributed to this guy's maniacal act. Everyone is quick to rush to judgment here. And the reality is, nobody knows yet. I watch a lot of true crime shows, and you are exactly right - there are people who are born evil. At 21 years old he didn't even have enough time to spin too much in his head about who he hated. 6 years ago he was the same age as my youngest son who today worries about acne and girls more than anything else.

    I think there were probably a lot of things that were inside this very sick individual, and he may very well have chosen this church for the reason you said - nobody theoretically would be able to defend himself or herself.

    It's typical in this country lately for the conspiracy theorists to run amok right out of the gate. He may have had a bad reaction to drugs. It wouldn't be the first time. He may have had a tumor the size of Arkansas in his brain. It will take time to find out what was in his mind, if ever at all.
    I just caught a few minutes of Greta Van Susteren's show. By witness accounts, this killer walked into the church and asked someone to identify the pastor. The congregation was black and they welcomed this white man to join them in service and was given the a seat of honor next to the pastor. He sat there while they prayed, sang praises, and heard a sermon almost an hour before he stood up and started killing folks. If that isn't sheer evil, I don't know what is.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I just caught a few minutes of Greta Van Susteren's show. By witness accounts, this killer walked into the church and asked someone to identify the pastor. The congregation was black and they welcomed this white man to join them in service and was given the a seat of honor next to the pastor. He sat there while they prayed, sang praises, and heard a sermon almost an hour before he stood up and started killing folks. If that isn't sheer evil, I don't know what is.
    I knew evil was real the day I heard about a 21 year old walking into a classroom of innocent 6 year olds and shooting them. It's real. It exists. It's awful.

    This is a special kind of evil to sit there for an hour with this festering in your mind.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    This sounds sadly familiar--"[Uncle Carson]Cowles said he recognized Roof in a photo released by police, and described him as quiet and soft-spoken."..."Nobody in my family had seen anything like this coming"..."too introverted"..."I said he was like 19 years old, he still didn't have a job, a driver's license or anything like that and he just stayed in his room a lot of the time."

    South Carolina church shooting suspect got gun for birthday, uncle says
    Introverted, didn't have a job, no driver's license, stayed in his room and got a gun for his birthday. That's does sound sadly familiar.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Introverted, didn't have a job, no driver's license, stayed in his room and got a gun for his birthday. That's does sound sadly familiar.
    The Columbine guys could drive.... and so could this guy...
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The Columbine guys could drive.... and so could this guy...

    I was thinking more along the lines of Adam Lanza.

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