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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Bingo! And that is why I'd like to know if he was or has been in counseling, and the types of drugs he has taken, legally and otherwise. Most modern day young mass murderers have been connected to SSRIs or SNRIs. Those drugs can alter personalities, especially young people. The point being so many factors can be involved that we have no earthly idea what caused Roof to act as he did. It is important, however, that we find out.

    I know a bazillion Christians and conservatives and I have yet to know one personally who has mass murdered people.
    What a coincidence--so do I! I even know people of other faiths and secularists and even liberals and skateboarders and video game players who aren't mass murderers!

    I'm very dubious about the source (Alex Jones, and his link to CBS News doesn't report what he says it does, at least that I saw), but according to Infowars:

    According to a CBS News report, earlier this year when cops searched Roof after he was acting suspiciously inside a Bath and Body Works store, they found “orange strips” that Roof told officers was suboxone, a narcotic that is used to treat opiate addiction.
    Suboxone is a habit-forming drug that has been connected with sudden outbursts of aggression. » Charleston Shooter Was on Drug Linked to Violent Outbursts Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    Of course it does. That report detailed numerous differences between policies and individuals.
    Good grief, I'll humor your trolling and weird obsession with me:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Wakey, wakey, no need for eggs and bakey because I can smell the bull**** from here. It's a simple question. There are no procedures so radically different when it comes to approaching the same supposed threat. As a matter of fact, the facts in these cases show that if police officers can respond without the suspect ending up dead in one scenario that it is possible to do it with others where the threat is nowhere near as high. Keep trying.
    Here is the report:

    https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/176330-1.pdf

    Emerging from the research is a more complete understanding of the frequency with which certain types of tactics are used and what types of weapons are displayed, threatened, or actually used. The consistent findings across all six jurisdictions are that most arrests (more than 80 percent) did not involve force by police (ex-cluding handcuffing) or by suspects. In 98 percent of arrests where force was used, no weapon was used, threatened, or even displayed. When police used some form of weaponless tactic (hitting, kicking, wrestling, etc.), the most frequent tactic involved only grabbing (about half thetime)
    Consistently, officers reacted the same exact way in the overwhelming majority of arrests. Here is my contention:

    the facts in these cases show that if police officers can respond without the suspect ending up dead in one scenario that it is possible to do it with others where the threat is nowhere near as high.

    And your silly response:

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    What you might be smelling is your scorched idea, because you obviously know very little about law enforcement policies. You might want to do a little research to find out just how wrong you really are.
    If the majority of police officers managed to resolve similar incidents the same way, how is it possible for others not to when the threat is not as high? Wait... there is more!

    https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/176330-1.pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by xi
    The first tactic used in an incident is nearly always the least severe use of force on the continuum; the second is almost always the second-most lenient; and so on, with very few exceptions.
    This statement shows that there is really no difference in policies. Cops across the board (and as per the study) treat people in accordance to the state of the person. So how is it possible for my statement to be wrong if the policies for that treatment and their use is the same across the board?
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Just saw it reported that they've identified this as the guy ... Dylan Storm Roof, if you can believe it ...

    Dylann Storm Roof Identified As Charleston Shooting Suspect: Report
    What on Earth kind of name is that?
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm not afraid of anything. I'm also not someone who participates in faulty analysis from the cheap seats.

    Out of curiosity, if the murderer happened to be "conservative", self-identified so, as you clearly for some reason hope he is, what about his affinity to conservative ideology would lead him to murder 9 black people in a church? I'd love to know because I sure don't want to wake up one day and find myself taking target practice in a neighbourhood church. So save me, please.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Bro...





    see those flags?

    1. apartheid era South Africa
    2. White rule era Rhodesia



    body cams? I don't think so.
    Okay, that face, that picture...I will have nightmares. I have to catch up on the hundreds of posts in this thread....he looks like an amazingly angry young man. Crazy expression.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    What on Earth kind of name is that?
    I had to patch my storm roof just last week.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Okay, that face, that picture...I will have nightmares. I have to catch up on the hundreds of posts in this thread....he looks like an amazingly angry young man. Crazy expression.
    If I was looking at that photo and not knowing what he had committed, i would say deep sadness and pain within.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    I'm sorry, I know I should read all 400 posts. He had a criminal record? For what?

    Why does a boy from the US wear clothing that shows flags of Rhodesia?
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm sorry, I know I should read all 400 posts. He had a criminal record? For what?

    Why does a boy from the US wear clothing that shows flags of Rhodesia?
    Believe it was cocaine.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm sorry, I know I should read all 400 posts. He had a criminal record? For what?

    Why does a boy from the US wear clothing that shows flags of Rhodesia?
    I don't know about the flag, but Roof had a misdemeanor charge of trespassing and a felony drug charge.

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