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    re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by cAPSLOCK View Post
    I get the sentiment here. But it would do much more good if this man is caught, tried and executed. (assuming his guilt which seems pretty straightforward)
    Erod is saying it because he has a record of supporting police brutality, I say it because I doubt the victims of this crime will get proper justice. There is no shared sentiment.
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    re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's always my fear too Risky. As much as I want to see this SOB dead, at the same time I want him alive and singing like a canary so we know who else may harbor whatever feelings he has as well.


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    As disgusting as is any taking of human life, I am appalled at the hate filled retribution indicated in this thread.

    It's ugly folks, and as a practicing Christian I am outraged, but more appalled at the calls for vengeance in the form of outright murder.

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    re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    The suspect was arrested at a traffic stop. He's in custody.

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    re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    To echo law enforcement in cases where whites are murdered, we don't know if this was a hate crime. The big question is why would he go to church and sit quietly in a pew for about an hour before he started shooting? What was the motive, and will we ever find that out?
    He told the people he murdered that he "had to do it" because "you rape our women and are taking over our country." That's the motive. He took photos of himself wearing a jacket that had the flags of Rhodesia and apartheid-era South Africa. It's safe to say it was a hate crime.
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    re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Try not to sound so much like you're gloating.
    None is implied, much more is exposed by your inference.

    I'm sure there some rocks large enough for you to hide under till this blows over.
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    I am a medical provider. Try having the pressure of someones life in your hands.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Look, man. "Hate crime" is immaterial in these type of cases. All it does is allow some people to justify their outrage. The fact of the matter is that if you murder someone you're getting the needle or you're getting a life sentence. If you murder more than one you get consecutive sentences. To that end, a "hate crime" conviction doesn't add a damned thing to the punishment. Maybe this guy will get another 180 years tacked on to his nine life sentences when this is all said and done but, frankly, I doubt that he'll care at that point.
    Oh, but it does make it more emotional, therefore the race pimps get to cash in, and the mental cases can appear mainstream in calling for vengeance
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    re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The suspect was arrested at a traffic stop. He's in custody.
    Cool stuff, isn't it weird that police in Cleveland can pull up on a 13 year old with an air soft and shoot him within 2 seconds but police in NJ and SC manage to catch armed suspects alive?
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    re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Look, man. "Hate crime" is immaterial in these type of cases. All it does is allow some people to justify their outrage. The fact of the matter is that if you murder someone you're getting the needle or you're getting a life sentence. If you murder more than one you get consecutive sentences. To that end, a "hate crime" conviction doesn't add a damned thing to the punishment. Maybe this guy will get another 180 years tacked on to his nine life sentences when this is all said and done but, frankly, I doubt that he'll care at that point.
    So your argument is that the identification of hate crimes was to modify punishment?
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Erod is saying it because he has a record of supporting police brutality, I say it because I doubt the victims of this crime will get proper justice. There is no shared sentiment.
    You don't think they'll get justice!!??

    Really?

    The guy is going to get either life or death so what else do you think it will take to get "proper justice"?

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    re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Yes, it does matter.. there is a difference between hate crime and random crime.
    REally? Are the victims more dead if it's a hate crime?
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