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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    You are making it up as you go along. The truth is that 80% of the dixiecrats remained in the democrat party. So your enmasse suggestion is dishonest. As is your suggestion that today's tea partiers would have been dixiecrats in the civil rights era. The motivation of the dixiecrats was all about race. Today's Tea Partiers are about limited government and tax fairness.
    No, that isn't true at all. For example, in the last election before the Civil Rights Act in Mississippi, 75% of the population voted Democratic with virtually every white voting Democratic and virtually every black voting Republican. Then, the very next election, 75% of the population voted Republican, with nearly every white voting Republican and nearly every black voting Democratic. The Dixiecrats flipped parties overnight there. In other states, like Alabama, it was a slower process because a few Dixiecrats kept running as Democrats for a while, but obviously Alabama also ended up switching. The whole south did. Now, those same districts that were solid Dixiecrat are solid Tea Party.

    Come on man, you really didn't know that?

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Just the main two. We do not enforce the gun laws already on the books and we have a revolving door criminal justice system. That about covers it. All of these mass shooters have much in common.....drug abuse and mental illness.
    Hmm. But drug abuse and mental illness are just as prevalent in other developed countries.

    You may be on to something about enforcing strict gun laws though. Maybe we should look at, say, Europe and see what they do.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    She is not a white supremacist. You simply have no idea what you are talking about.
    Wow, that came full circle quickly... Turns out Dylann had a website where he laid out why he committed the murders. He says the moment when he realized he needed to do this was when he came upon the website of the Council of Conservative Citizens. The CCC is a white supremacist group. Guess who endorses them? Ann Coulter.

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    If we were having this discussion 50 years ago, you would arguably have a point. Even 50 years ago, the point wouldn't be that clear. Dixiecrats were socially conservative/economically liberal. Over time, they switched to being economically conservative- prompted by resentment of welfare, which they saw as being about taking money from whites and giving it to blacks. So, when the Democrats joined with some Republicans to pass the Civil Rights Act, the Dixiecrats jumped ship and became Republicans en masse. Today, the folks who would have been Dixiecrats in those days are the tea party.
    Whats different ?

    The Democrat party has always wanted to control the minority population.

    First through overt racism, and policies like Jim Crow, and now through Policies and narratives that create dependance and instill a victim mentality.

    Its their way of guaranteeing a voting block, and its insidious and despicable.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Whats different ?

    The Democrat party has always wanted to control the minority population.

    First through overt racism, and policies like Jim Crow, and now through Policies and narratives that create dependance and instill a victim mentality.

    Its their way of guaranteeing a voting block, and its insidious and despicable.
    LOL. Let's try to stick to serious discussion, ok?

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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Hmm. But drug abuse and mental illness are just as prevalent in other developed countries.


    You may be on to something about enforcing strict gun laws though. Maybe we should look at, say, Europe and see what they do.
    Why are you Libs so intent on a devolving American Society ? Becoming more like Europe ?

    Anyway, we cannot even enforce our immigration laws which consequently leaves us with a very porous Southern border.

    A border that could easily become a source for illegal weapons entering into the Untied states IF something like a outright gun ban was ever instituted. ( never happen )

    And I'm pretty sure we already have strict gun laws.

    Especially in places like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit and St Louis.

    For some reason people keep breaking those laws and shooting each other.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    We cannot even enforce our immigration laws which consequently leaves us with a very porous Southern border.

    A border that could easily become a source for illegal weapons entering into the Untied states.

    And I'm pretty sure we already have strict gun laws.

    Especially in places like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit and St Louis.

    For some reason people keep breaking those laws and shooting each other.
    Hmm. Other countries have borders.

    And I don't think Mexican nationals are doing the mass murders. White guys mostly are.

    But you might have a point on the gun laws, considering that Indiana, Missouri and Virginia have really lax gun laws and we have no border control (another good point!) between states.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Hmm. Other countries have borders.

    And I don't think Mexican nationals are doing the mass murders. White guys mostly are.

    But you might have a point on the gun laws, considering that Indiana, Missouri and Virginia have really lax gun laws and we have no border control (another good point!) between states.

    I didn't say Mexican Nationals were doing the mass killings, at least not here.

    Plenty of mass killings in Northern Mexico BTW.

    What I meant is if there ever was a outright gun ban, if we ever devolved down into some copy of some European Nation, the flow of illegal arms into the States from Mexico would mean only the criminals would be armed.

    Thats just a horrible idea. Its as bad of a idea as letting some random nuts actions dictate Gun policy on a National level.

    Maybe we would see some of those Guns that Holder let walk into the hands of the murderous Mexican Cartels make it back home.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    The usual misinterpretation to fit your needs, not unexpected.

    How about these words from Obama...

    "The fact that this took place in a black church also raises questions about a dark part of our history,"

    WTF is this jerk talking about? What questions? What is this moron trying to say, so inarticulately? He is always ready, ever prepared, to put down this country and it's people, even though it was an act by a single individual.

    Boy, did we get the short end of the stick, as a country, when he stepped into office.
    So you hate quotes then you bring one that shows you also hate history unless it's blowing smoke up your ass.

    You're too funny.
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    Re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    LOL. Let's try to stick to serious discussion, ok?
    So blacks under the first black President are doing better or worse ?

    Gun Violence in inner city areas run by Democrat monopolies for decades is increasing or decreasing ?

    There's the typical and expected Democrat narratives and then there's the reality of effects of left wing policies and iniatives on minorities.

    I prefer to exist in the real world.
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