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    Re: 'Accused is guilty': Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say

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    If there was evidence of misconduct then I'm pretty sure that the college's in question would be showing it in order to vindicate themselves.
    the law prohibits the school from releasing information to the public
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    Re: 'Accused is guilty': Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    the law prohibits the school from releasing information to the public
    Yes it does. However a general statement by them that there was evidence of other types of misconduct and that was the reason that they expelled him would get them around that law. Those laws afaik apply to specifics. Not generalities.
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    Re: 'Accused is guilty': Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes it does. However a general statement by them that there was evidence of other types of misconduct and that was the reason that they expelled him would get them around that law. Those laws afaik apply to specifics. Not generalities.
    Amherst *has* issued a general statement.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...yJ/story.html#
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    Re: 'Accused is guilty': Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say

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    Colleges, like people, should be free to decide for themselves what they should do.
    So you support colleges expelling students who are accused of misconduct?
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    Re: 'Accused is guilty': Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say

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    The topic is college disciplinary actions and they can be whatever the college wants them to be.
    Subject to civil actions for libel if the student insists they got it wrong.
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    Re: 'Accused is guilty': Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    So you support colleges expelling students who are accused of misconduct?
    If they broke the college's rules, yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Subject to civil actions for libel if the student insists they got it wrong.
    I believe it takes more than "they got it wrong" to win a civil action. The plaintiff has to show that they were libelled in order to win a libel suit. Anyway, I don't think this suit is a libel suit.
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    Re: 'Accused is guilty': Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If they broke the college's rules, yes.
    Not if they broke them, if they are accused. Do you support colleges expelling students based on accusations?
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    Re: 'Accused is guilty': Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Amherst *has* issued a general statement.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...yJ/story.html#
    That he was expelled due to sexual misconduct. Of which there is no evidence of. In fact text's by the accuser to the college counselor and the texts between the accuser and another male show the exact opposite. Which means your assumption in your post 59 is wrong. There is no evidence of misconduct relating to what the school says they expelled him for.
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    Re: 'Accused is guilty': Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Not if they broke them, if they are accused. Do you support colleges expelling students based on accusations?
    I've seen no evidence that anyone has ever been expelled based solely on an accusation so your question is irrelevant to the issue being discussed.
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    Re: 'Accused is guilty': Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    That he was expelled due to sexual misconduct. Of which there is no evidence of. In fact text's by the accuser to the college counselor and the texts between the accuser and another male show the exact opposite. Which means your assumption in your post 59 is wrong. There is no evidence of misconduct relating to what the school says they expelled him for.
    There is evidence of sexual misconduct. The texts you refer to suggest it may not have been rape, but that doesn't mean the accussed did not engage in sexual misconduct. Also, the texts do not show the exact opposite and they weren't provided to the college before the student was expelled
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