Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush
“I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.
And the bottom line is our justice system releases criminals into the streets every hour of every day - thousands of them, out on bail, parole, who go on to commit horrible crimes. It's a risk we know about and we accept because the alternatives are worse. If there is a better alternative for non-violent illegals, then someone should suggest it. Berlin Wall to cut off illegal immigration, a few hundred more prisons, overruling the SC? Not sure what it would take to take the risk of released illegals to zero.
fail. So ICE is incapable of, oh, say, I don't know, handing them back over to the Justice System?From the story:
So, just a minor problem called the Supreme Court of the United States prevents them from being held indefinitely.
Worth noting, Democrats: President Trump will have a Pen and a Phone. #Precedent.
I don't see any discussion of them being convicted criminals or what they were convicted of? Jaywalking? If you know something I don't, you click on the link and deal with your computer crashing.More than 100 immigrants whom the Obama administration released back into the community went on to be charged with subsequent killings, according to government data released Monday that raises more questions about whether immigration authorities are doing enough to detail illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.
They served their sentences under the "Justice System." What do you suggest? That the justice system keep them for life if their sentence is 10 years?fail. So ICE is incapable of, oh, say, I don't know, handing them back over to the Justice System?
I'm just quoting links you guys are presenting. The Moonie Times says "thousands" are released every year under the SC ruling because countries won't accept the former prisoners. What do we do with them - build some more prisons at GITMO for those folks? I'm open to suggestions!
Last edited by JasperL; 06-17-15 at 02:49 PM.
From the OP's article: "...33 of those were ordered released by immigration courts and another 24 were released because of a 2001 Supreme Court decision capping the time an immigrant can be detained to six months..."
That leaves 64 released by ICE at their discretion, or 16 per year.
"..All told, 121 immigrants who were held but eventually released by ICE went on to commit “homicide-related offenses”.."
The term “homicide-related offenses” suggests that some of those counted were not actually murderers, but were involved in a crime related to a murder.
Note that the detention facilities are all full, requiring prioritization of who is detained.
“..."When making custody determinations, ICE performs an individualized review of the individual’s immigration history and criminal history, pursuant to the Immigration and Naturalization Act (INA),” the agency said. “In accordance with the requirements of the INA, not all criminals are subject to mandatory detention and thus may be eligible for bond.”
Detention cannot be used as a further punishment for their crimes or for being in the country illegally, but rather must be used as a tool for further deportation.
Still, ICE stiffened its policies this year, insisting that a supervisor approve cases when the agency plans to release immigrants with serious criminal records..."
In other words, you can't blame Obama for the entire situation.