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    Re: Off-Duty Cop Fatally Shoots Ex-Wife In Front Of Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Come on, that's just really silly. This has nothing to do with any of the threads about police shootings recently. He did this off duty and it couldn't be any more obvious that he did it for personal reasons. There isn't anything to debate here, and no "police apologists" would suggest anything of the sort.

    This is a clear cut domestic murder, and the fact that he makes his living as a police officer is not only irrelevant to the story, it's actually a distraction from the real danger which is domestic violence.
    Some of the time the police, the legal system, etc. see no 'difference' between off-duty and on-duty cops. Whether off-duty or on-duty the 'rules of engagement' are usually looked at as being the same. And because of that off duty cops often get away with committing crimes.

    We'll see with this case. It seems to be premeditated, so 1st degree murder would be on the table. Also let's see how the Police Union handles this. This guy was 'off-duty' so the Union, and the Police dept. should say to him 'you're on your own'.. We'll see.
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    Re: Off-Duty Cop Fatally Shoots Ex-Wife In Front Of Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Some of the time the police, the legal system, etc. see no 'difference' between off-duty and on-duty cops. Whether off-duty or on-duty the 'rules of engagement' are usually looked at as being the same. And because of that off duty cops often get away with committing crimes.

    We'll see with this case. It seems to be premeditated, so 1st degree murder would be on the table. Also let's see how the Police Union handles this. This guy was 'off-duty' so the Union, and the Police dept. should say to him 'you're on your own'.. We'll see.
    It does seem premeditated but any man who does this can get it knocked to 2nd degree with the right lawyer. "It was heat of the moment, he just went to talk to her", etc.

    The Union should absolutely stay out of this because it isn't a police matter in that he was acting as a police man. He was acting as a crazy ex-husband, something we sadly see too often. I think he will get the book thrown at him pretty quickly, as he should.

    Damn, can you imagine that poor daughter watching her father slaughter her mother? What an asshole he is.
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    Re: Off-Duty Cop Fatally Shoots Ex-Wife In Front Of Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
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    This is a clear cut domestic murder, and the fact that he makes his living as a police officer is not only irrelevant to the story, it's actually a distraction from the real danger which is domestic violence.
    I agree. The only thing that is relevant here is the specter of domestic violence. The man was, first and foremost, an angry husband, given to violence. The fact that his career was in law enforcement doesn't have anything to do with officers in general.
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    Re: Off-Duty Cop Fatally Shoots Ex-Wife In Front Of Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    The man was...given to violence...law enforcement


    I think maybe people are starting to catch on...

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    Re: Off-Duty Cop Fatally Shoots Ex-Wife In Front Of Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post


    I think maybe people are starting to catch on...
    I just don't think it behooves us to paint all officers with the same broad brush.
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    Re: Off-Duty Cop Fatally Shoots Ex-Wife In Front Of Daughter

    Meanwhile, an innocent woman is dead, murdered in front of her 7 year old daughter, which to me is a more important component to this than all of the political dick measuring going on in this thread. I hope the guy never sees sunlight again.

    You may now continue your pointless political posturing.
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    Re: Off-Duty Cop Fatally Shoots Ex-Wife In Front Of Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It does seem premeditated but any man who does this can get it knocked to 2nd degree with the right lawyer. "It was heat of the moment, he just went to talk to her", etc.

    The Union should absolutely stay out of this because it isn't a police matter in that he was acting as a police man. He was acting as a crazy ex-husband, something we sadly see too often. I think he will get the book thrown at him pretty quickly, as he should.

    Damn, can you imagine that poor daughter watching her father slaughter her mother? What an asshole he is.
    AND the Police Dept should stay out of it too.
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    Re: Off-Duty Cop Fatally Shoots Ex-Wife In Front Of Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    He'll be put on paid leave and he'll receive a written reprimand. Otherwise there's really nothing unusual here.
    No, sorry. Its murder.

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    Re: Off-Duty Cop Fatally Shoots Ex-Wife In Front Of Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    I just don't think it behooves us to paint all officers with the same broad brush.
    His cop hate is thick.

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    Re: Off-Duty Cop Fatally Shoots Ex-Wife In Front Of Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    AND the Police Dept should stay out of it too.
    They really can't. They arrested him. It's their case, just as if he was a plumber or a trash collector or a doctor who did this.
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