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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Yes... you should have. Aren't you now supremely ashamed!?
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    And properly contrite! Bubba will probably take some more likes away from me as punishment anyway, darn his hide! He's such a stickler for details! :

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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No, because they are lawless, corrupt, and dangerous.
    yes they are lawless both in USA and in SA
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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    South Africa is nowhere you want to be anymore. The crime rate has skyrocketed.

    It's pretty much like the rest of Africa now.
    Youre implying it was heaven under Apartheid?

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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Studies conducted by South Africa's Medical Research Council have shown that something like 25% of South African men have committed rape and 50% of those have raped more than once.
    I want a source for this. Those numbers are too ridiculous.

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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Nearly one in five women are raped in their lifetime in the US. That's about 23 million women. Sad to learn that South Africa is worse. I had such high hopes for that country. I hear they have a great airport though.

    Nearly 1 In 5 Women Are Raped In Their Lifetimes, Says Report
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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I want a source for this. Those numbers are too ridiculous.
    South Africa's problem.
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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Nearly one in five women are raped in their lifetime in the US. That's about 23 million women. Sad to learn that South Africa is worse. I had such high hopes for that country. I hear they have a great airport though.

    Nearly 1 In 5 Women Are Raped In Their Lifetimes, Says Report
    meh I don't buy that study, for several reasons, one the numbers are too high to be reasonable. in fact the US Bureau of Justice Statistics, operated by the department of Justice and which is considered the standard for estimates of unreported violent crime, cites a much lower number, 1 in 54 women.

    they tally their total count for 2010 of rape and sexual assault, including estimates of unreported, to be less then 300,000

    http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvsv9410.pdf
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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gomario View Post
    She went there to teach them and how do they thank her? WTF Welcum to the New South Africa
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    South Africa, once known as the bread basket of Africa, then ‘The Rainbow Nation’ and then this.

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    Replace apartheid with this and then wonder what went wrong. How about a bit of regime change or invasion here, or is that politically incorrect?

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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    meh I don't buy that study, for several reasons, one the numbers are too high to be reasonable. in fact the US Bureau of Justice Statistics, operated by the department of Justice and which is considered the standard for estimates of unreported violent crime, cites a much lower number, 1 in 54 women.

    they tally their total count for 2010 of rape and sexual assault, including estimates of unreported, to be less then 300,000

    http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvsv9410.pdf

    "...in their lifetime." That could mean five years ago or ten years from now.

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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    "...in their lifetime." That could mean five years ago or ten years from now.
    still, the numbers are too small for that to ever come up to one in five.

    the numbers i cited in the BJS report weren't even the total number of completed rapes, that included their estimates for threats and attempted too.

    they also found (surprise surprise) the two demographic groups with the highest rate were the age groups of 12 to 17 and 17 to 34. once that window is over odds go down to near nothing. so the 15 years of data from BJS when totaled, is pretty complete. when you total their total counts, and then divide the number of women by those counts over the last 15 years, we see one in 31. thats one in 31 too many, but it's no where near the one in 5 number cited.

    the CDC study has another issue, over two thirds of their rape numbers come from the category of drunk or drugged, but how they phrase the survey questions is so shoddy, that they're getting overreported in that category, where someone will tell the researcher they had sexual intercourse while drunk, and the researcher will mark that as a rape, even if the person being surveyed considers it consensual or it doesn't meet the definition of rape is a legal sense. the BJS on the other hand, catergorizes assaults based on a legal definition of rape and is part of surveys that first ask the surveyee if they consider themselves the victim of a crime.

    this is an important distinction, what happens when you start throwing out ridicolously high or inflated numbers, and people don't believe them (which I don't think many outside the extreme feminist in Oberlin College community actually believes that number) they'll start tuning those numbers out, which is bad, because if publishing those high numbers backfires, less attention will be paid to many very real victims.
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