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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Maybe that's what the OP is implying.

    Maybe it's not.

    It doesn't change the fact that South Africa has the highest rate of violence against women in the world and one of the highest rates (it's usually #1, #2 or #3 depending on the year) of sexual violence against women in the world.

    If you rely on reported statistics a woman gets raped in South Africa every 4 minutes.

    If you instead look at the figure that the government and NGOs think is actually an accurate representation of their rape crisis it jumps up to a woman being raped just about every 36 seconds (note that the vast majority of rapes, 8 out of 9, go officially unreported for a number of reasons).

    Studies conducted by South Africa's Medical Research Council have shown that something like 25% of South African men have committed rape and 50% of those have raped more than once.

    It's estimated that 40% of South African women will be raped in their lifetime.

    All of these statistics and estimates are readily available on the Internet from any number of reliable sources.

    Feel free to look around and edify yourself.

    What I'm implying is that when you're a woman, and you travel to a place where rape is endemic and of crisis proportions, you should probably be a LOT more careful than to go out by yourself for a jog in a place where it's possible for someone to pull you in to the bushes, out of sight.

    If you want to imagine that race is a factor here I'll respect your right to speculate all you want.

    But you'll notice that I have not, not once, neither here nor in my previous comment, mentioned race once.
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    I agree with your thoughts that it's not safe for women these days to be out alone jogging, especially in South Africa. What was that woman thinking? Plus, isn't South Africa where Boko Haram kidnapped 300 young schoolgirls who have not been found? Even Michelle Obama begged for their release, to no avail. If those girls are not dead, they may wish they were, if they've become sex slaves to a bunch of animals! Disgusting! :

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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Not really... all that means is that society there is getting better and more lawful...
    Oh. So no, in fact, the rape rate hasn't plummeted, indicating that the idea that a rape culture is Apartheid's fault isn't, well, accurate?
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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Soot.

    I agree with your thoughts that it's not safe for women these days to be out alone jogging, especially in South Africa. What was that woman thinking? Plus, isn't South Africa where Boko Haram kidnapped 300 young schoolgirls who have not been found? Even Michelle Obama begged for their release, to no avail. If those girls are not dead, they may wish they were, if they've become sex slaves to a bunch of animals! Disgusting! :
    Nigeria. Boko Haram is in Nigeria. It's about 3,000 miles away.
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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Oh. So no, in fact, the rape rate hasn't plummeted, indicating that the idea that a rape culture is Apartheid's fault isn't, well, accurate?
    I have no idea what point you are trying to make or why you are debating me. I said that South Africa is one of the most violent countries on Earth and that Apartheid is the reason that there are untold millions living in extreme poor and in violent conditions. Just a fact.

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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Nigeria. Boko Haram is in Nigeria. It's about 3,000 miles away.
    Greetings, cpwill.

    Thanks for the update. I should have remembered that!
    Last edited by polgara; 06-16-15 at 06:59 PM.

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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    A rather unfortunate use of spelling in the OP, considering the seriousness of the subject matter. Guess the frat boys are out for the summer.
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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I have no idea what point you are trying to make or why you are debating me. I said that South Africa is one of the most violent countries on Earth and that Apartheid is the reason that there are untold millions living in extreme poor and in violent conditions. Just a fact.
    How can you be sure that Apartheid is responsible for the high rates of violence?

    True, many countries are just as poor and have far less violent crime, but that's not proof.
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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    How can you be sure that Apartheid is responsible for the high rates of violence?

    True, many countries are just as poor and have far less violent crime, but that's not proof.
    I doubt that there is any way to tell why... I just know many South Africans and what they described then and now makes me thin that is the cause.

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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, cpwill.

    Thanks for the update. I should have remembered that!
    Yes... you should have. Aren't you now supremely ashamed!?

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    Re: US teacher raped in South Africa.

    South Africa is violent, one of the most violent countries in the world.

    But you know what the most damning thing of all is... the reason she got raped?

    We can debate it all we want but because of the pervasive nature of crime in South Africa, the basic fact is... she was unlucky.

    That's it.

    She was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    In South Africa we have a sort of saying about crime.

    "It doesn't happen to you, til it happens to you".

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