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    Re: FDA Tells Food Industry to Phase out Artificial Trans Fats

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Thats not true at all.
    "n 2013, the FDA made a tentative determination that PHOs could no longer be considered GRAS (generally recognized as safe) and is finalizing that determination after considering public comments."
    "Since 2006, manufacturers have been required to include trans fat content information on the Nutrition Facts label of foods."
    The FDA takes step to remove artificial trans fats in processed foods

    "Guidance and Regulations
    Final Determination Regarding Partially Hydrogenated Oils (Removing Trans Fat)
    Federal Register Notice: Final Determination Regarding Partially Hydrogenated Oils
    Federal Register Notice: Comment Period Extended for Tentative Determination Regarding Partially Hydrogenated Oils - Request for Comments and for Scientific Data and Information
    Federal Register Notice: Tentative Determination Regarding Partially Hydrogenated Oils - Request for Comments and for Scientific Data and Information
    Guidance for Industry: Trans Fatty Acids in Nutrition Labeling, Nutrient Content Claims, Health Claims; Small Entity Compliance Guide
    Federal Register Notice: Food Labeling - Trans (68 FR 41434)
    More Guidance and Regulations"
    Trans Fat
    Requiring labeling is not the same as regulating content. But you knew that.

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    Re: FDA Tells Food Industry to Phase out Artificial Trans Fats

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I agree.

    And with irresponsibility comes consequences.



    You probably don't.

    You probably don't need me telling you that you can't beat or have sex with your children either.

    What you need is really irrelevant to me.

    If you're so irresponsible that raping or poisoning your own kids is acceptable to you then clearly your kids need me or the government to stand up for them.
    Punishing all of society for the actions of the minuscule few is unacceptable. So no, we don't need government telling everyone what they can or cannot eat.

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    Re: FDA Tells Food Industry to Phase out Artificial Trans Fats

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    If I wanna eat contaminated food then I should have the right to! Freedom! No need for enforced recalls! Ecoli on certain foods! No need for the government telling me I cant give that to my kids!
    Calm down, histrionics is bad for your health.

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    Re: FDA Tells Food Industry to Phase out Artificial Trans Fats

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Punishing all of society for the actions of the minuscule few is unacceptable. So no, we don't need government telling everyone what they can or cannot eat.
    I don't disagree with that.

    As I said in my initial comment in this discussion, I eat this food sometimes, I allow my children to eat it at times, I have no problem with people eating it occasionally.

    I do have a problem with the broken system that allows these products to find their way in to foods, and I believe that the food industry should be regulated more heavily, but I don't have a problem with individuals occasionally eating something that tastes awesome even though they know to be "bad" for them.

    I also have a problem with people who eat these foods excessively and, worse, who feed this garbage to their children regularly.
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    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
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    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: FDA Tells Food Industry to Phase out Artificial Trans Fats

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I don't disagree with that.

    As I said in my initial comment in this discussion, I eat this food sometimes, I allow my children to eat it at times, I have no problem with people eating it occasionally.

    I do have a problem with the broken system that allows these products to find their way in to foods, and I believe that the food industry should be regulated more heavily, but I don't have a problem with individuals occasionally eating something that tastes awesome even though they know to be "bad" for them.

    I also have a problem with people who eat these foods excessively and, worse, who feed this garbage to their children regularly.
    It's definitely a problem, I just no longer trust the government to do anything right.

    I think we both want the same thing, we just have a mild disagreement on how to accomplish this. I favor education, but you will always have a segment of the populace that just doesn't care, unfortunately.

    You're right about the occasional Big Mac being delicious.

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    Re: FDA Tells Food Industry to Phase out Artificial Trans Fats

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Requiring labeling is not the same as regulating content. But you knew that.
    What? Government requiring certain industries to put labels on products isnt regulations? So cigarette companies having to put "anti smoking" labels on their products isnt regulation? Drug companies having to put warning labels, side effects labels, isnt regulation? Are you kidding me? That's a huge way to regulate content.
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    Re: FDA Tells Food Industry to Phase out Artificial Trans Fats

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What? Government requiring certain industries to put labels on products isnt regulations? So cigarette companies having to put "anti smoking" labels on their products isnt regulation? Drug companies having to put warning labels, side effects labels, isnt regulation? Are you kidding me? That's a huge way to regulate content.
    Dude, do you have a problem with reading comprehension? I said, requiring labeling is not the same as regulating content. The government isn't currently telling manufacturers they must limit trans-fat content. Are you incapable of having a rational discussion?

    Trans-fat content has been reduced not because of labeling, but because of public demand.

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    Re: FDA Tells Food Industry to Phase out Artificial Trans Fats

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What? Government requiring certain industries to put labels on products isnt regulations? So cigarette companies having to put "anti smoking" labels on their products isnt regulation? Drug companies having to put warning labels, side effects labels, isnt regulation? Are you kidding me? That's a huge way to regulate content.
    Content. Regulating content.
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    Re: FDA Tells Food Industry to Phase out Artificial Trans Fats

    "Trans fats won’t be completely gone. They occur naturally in meat and dairy products, and are produced at very low levels in some edible oils during the manufacturing process, the F.D.A. said. And companies will be able to petition the F.D.A. for specific uses of certain partially hydrogenated oils."

    Awesome, companies can ask the government for permission. Hip hip bureaucracy. Hip hip bureaucracy.
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    Re: FDA Tells Food Industry to Phase out Artificial Trans Fats

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Dude, do you have a problem with reading comprehension? I said, requiring labeling is not the same as regulating content. The government isn't currently telling manufacturers they must limit trans-fat content. Are you incapable of having a rational discussion?
    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Content. Regulating content.
    Mandatory labeling isnt labeling content? The package is part of the product.

    Trans-fat content has been reduced not because of labeling, but because of public demand.
    And how do they find out about the trans fats in products? By mandatory labeling.......
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