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    121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    More than 100 immigrants whom the Obama administration released back into the community went on to be charged with subsequent killings, according to government data released Monday that raises more questions about whether immigration authorities are doing enough to detail illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.

    121 murders attributed to illegals released by Obama administration - Washington Times

    Whatever the government touches, it turns to nightmare. Obama released these criminals onto our streets knowing that they are dangerous. We should stop the immigration. Right now our economy is struggling. Millions upon millions of Americans are out of work. 44 million Americans are on food stamps. 47 million Americans are living in poverty. We just can’t take in a whole lot of extra workers right now.

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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    I wonder how this compares to gun deaths.
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    All told, 121 immigrants who were held but eventually released by ICE went on to commit “homicide-related offenses” from 2010 through 2014, the agency said.
    I see.. so over a 4 year period. The average for those years was about 14800 murders per year.. so that is 59200 murders, and you are bitching about 121 immigrants?
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I see.. so over a 4 year period. The average for those years was about 14800 murders per year.. so that is 59200 murders, and you are bitching about 121 immigrants?
    If only people could apply the same logic when it's police officers rather than illegal aliens.
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by MathewSmith View Post
    More than 100 immigrants whom the Obama administration released back into the community went on to be charged with subsequent killings, according to government data released Monday that raises more questions about whether immigration authorities are doing enough to detail illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.

    121 murders attributed to illegals released by Obama administration - Washington Times

    Whatever the government touches, it turns to nightmare. Obama released these criminals onto our streets knowing that they are dangerous. We should stop the immigration. Right now our economy is struggling. Millions upon millions of Americans are out of work. 44 million Americans are on food stamps. 47 million Americans are living in poverty. We just can’t take in a whole lot of extra workers right now.
    The first paragraph is a quote from the Washington Times and the rules tell us we must indicate such quotes.

    The Times, for some reason, fails to provide a link to the 'report' they have used as the basis for the article. In fact they are no links to webpages other than their own.

    One little point the Times does have in its article; ". . . 33 of those were ordered released by immigration courts and another 24 were released because of a 2001 Supreme Court decision capping the time an immigrant can be detained to six months. Technically, the 121 were all "Released by the Obama Administration" but for some reason, the guy who has "blatant disrespect for the Supreme Court" followed one of its orders in releasing the illegals. 57 out of the 121 were released from ICE detention owing to legal procedures.

    The second point is the classification: "homicide-related offenses" which does not necessarily indicate murder as it also includes cases of self-defence and accidental deaths. We also should acknowledge that not every person arrested and charged with killing another will be found guilty.

    A person might think that the editors of the Washington Times wants to keep its readers from reading original sources. It didn't take me very long to track down the actual ICE report, which was more of a letter to some Republican Senators but it would have been much simpler if the Times had provided a link.

    First, I went to the ICE homepage, then to its "Newsroom" (click on the word in the title bar) and found nothing.
    Second, I did the Google on the phrase, "homicide-related offenses". Results included a couple of legal pages which provided the definition and a page with a headline similar to the WashTimes headline. HNGN.com "News for a Mobile Generation". Unlike the WashTimes, this article included links to outside pages.

    Unfortunately, what appeared to be a link in the following paragraph, came up with javascript:void(0)
    "Between FY 2010 and FY 2014, there were 121 unique criminal aliens who had an active case at the time of release and were subsequently charged with homicide-related offenses," ICE Director Sarah Saldaña wrote in a newly released letter to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz.
    But, further down in the article in the following paragraph, a valid link is present
    Grassley and Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., sent a follow-up letter Monday to Attorney General Loretta Lynch, Secretary of State John Kerry and Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson asking how decisions are "made by Justice Department officials to release criminals from custody prior to their deportation."
    Clicked on the "follow-up letter" to go thru to Senator Grassley's page. In his letter, I found the link to the "report" from ICE Director Sarah Saldaña -- http://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites...imirano%29.pdf

    The question for me: Why didn't source of the original article, the Washington Times, provide this link? The letter shows nothing that really attempts to cover up any actions by the Administration, so why the failure on the part of the Times?
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    If only people could apply the same logic when it's police officers rather than illegal aliens.
    To date, police in America have killed 520 in 2015 - KilledbyPolice.net with links to news stories and reports of each death. That is just a few more than the 121 aliens charged with "homicide-related offenses" over a period of four years.
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    If only people could apply the same logic when it's police officers rather than illegal aliens.
    To be fair, there is more likely far more "dirty" cops than there are illegals that commit murder. Heck I bet there are a few dirty cops who have murdered illegals and gotten away with it.
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    To date, police in America have killed 520 in 2015 - KilledbyPolice.net with links to news stories and reports of each death. That is just a few more than the 121 aliens charged with "homicide-related offenses" over a period of four years.
    That is 121 that were released by the Obama administration, not all murders by Illegals.
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    To be fair, there is more likely far more "dirty" cops than there are illegals that commit murder. Heck I bet there are a few dirty cops who have murdered illegals and gotten away with it.
    No, that is not "being fair". That is spouting bull **** that you can't back up.
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by MathewSmith View Post
    More than 100 immigrants whom the Obama administration released back into the community went on to be charged with subsequent killings, according to government data released Monday that raises more questions about whether immigration authorities are doing enough to detail illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.

    121 murders attributed to illegals released by Obama administration - Washington Times

    Whatever the government touches, it turns to nightmare. Obama released these criminals onto our streets knowing that they are dangerous. We should stop the immigration. Right now our economy is struggling. Millions upon millions of Americans are out of work. 44 million Americans are on food stamps. 47 million Americans are living in poverty. We just can’t take in a whole lot of extra workers right now.
    So with an illegal immigrant population of over 10 million we didn't even see over 200 murders?

    I'd say that's pretty solid. Jail those 121 ****ers for life and continue letting those who show good behavior go.
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