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121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

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More than 100 immigrants whom the Obama administration released back into the community went on to be charged with subsequent killings, according to government data released Monday that raises more questions about whether immigration authorities are doing enough to detail illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.

121 murders attributed to illegals released by Obama administration - Washington Times

Whatever the government touches, it turns to nightmare. Obama released these criminals onto our streets knowing that they are dangerous. We should stop the immigration. Right now our economy is struggling. Millions upon millions of Americans are out of work. 44 million Americans are on food stamps. 47 million Americans are living in poverty. We just can’t take in a whole lot of extra workers right now.
 
I wonder how this compares to gun deaths.
 
All told, 121 immigrants who were held but eventually released by ICE went on to commit “homicide-related offenses” from 2010 through 2014, the agency said.

I see.. so over a 4 year period. The average for those years was about 14800 murders per year.. so that is 59200 murders, and you are bitching about 121 immigrants?
 
I see.. so over a 4 year period. The average for those years was about 14800 murders per year.. so that is 59200 murders, and you are bitching about 121 immigrants?

If only people could apply the same logic when it's police officers rather than illegal aliens.
 
More than 100 immigrants whom the Obama administration released back into the community went on to be charged with subsequent killings, according to government data released Monday that raises more questions about whether immigration authorities are doing enough to detail illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.

121 murders attributed to illegals released by Obama administration - Washington Times

Whatever the government touches, it turns to nightmare. Obama released these criminals onto our streets knowing that they are dangerous. We should stop the immigration. Right now our economy is struggling. Millions upon millions of Americans are out of work. 44 million Americans are on food stamps. 47 million Americans are living in poverty. We just can’t take in a whole lot of extra workers right now.

The first paragraph is a quote from the Washington Times and the rules tell us we must indicate such quotes.

The Times, for some reason, fails to provide a link to the 'report' they have used as the basis for the article. In fact they are no links to webpages other than their own.

One little point the Times does have in its article; ". . . 33 of those were ordered released by immigration courts and another 24 were released because of a 2001 Supreme Court decision capping the time an immigrant can be detained to six months. Technically, the 121 were all "Released by the Obama Administration" but for some reason, the guy who has "blatant disrespect for the Supreme Court" followed one of its orders in releasing the illegals. 57 out of the 121 were released from ICE detention owing to legal procedures.

The second point is the classification: "homicide-related offenses" which does not necessarily indicate murder as it also includes cases of self-defence and accidental deaths. We also should acknowledge that not every person arrested and charged with killing another will be found guilty.

A person might think that the editors of the Washington Times wants to keep its readers from reading original sources. It didn't take me very long to track down the actual ICE report, which was more of a letter to some Republican Senators but it would have been much simpler if the Times had provided a link.

First, I went to the ICE homepage, then to its "Newsroom" (click on the word in the title bar) and found nothing.
Second, I did the Google on the phrase, "homicide-related offenses". Results included a couple of legal pages which provided the definition and a page with a headline similar to the WashTimes headline. HNGN.com "News for a Mobile Generation". Unlike the WashTimes, this article included links to outside pages.

Unfortunately, what appeared to be a link in the following paragraph, came up with javascript:void(0)
"Between FY 2010 and FY 2014, there were 121 unique criminal aliens who had an active case at the time of release and were subsequently charged with homicide-related offenses," ICE Director Sarah Saldaña wrote in a newly released letter to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz.

But, further down in the article in the following paragraph, a valid link is present
Grassley and Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., sent a follow-up letter Monday to Attorney General Loretta Lynch, Secretary of State John Kerry and Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson asking how decisions are "made by Justice Department officials to release criminals from custody prior to their deportation."

Clicked on the "follow-up letter" to go thru to Senator Grassley's page. In his letter, I found the link to the "report" from ICE Director Sarah Saldaña -- http://www.grassley.senate.gov/site...5-05-28 ICE to CEG and Flake (Altimirano).pdf

The question for me: Why didn't source of the original article, the Washington Times, provide this link? The letter shows nothing that really attempts to cover up any actions by the Administration, so why the failure on the part of the Times?
 
If only people could apply the same logic when it's police officers rather than illegal aliens.

To date, police in America have killed 520 in 2015 - KilledbyPolice.net with links to news stories and reports of each death. That is just a few more than the 121 aliens charged with "homicide-related offenses" over a period of four years.
 
If only people could apply the same logic when it's police officers rather than illegal aliens.

To be fair, there is more likely far more "dirty" cops than there are illegals that commit murder. Heck I bet there are a few dirty cops who have murdered illegals and gotten away with it.
 
To date, police in America have killed 520 in 2015 - KilledbyPolice.net with links to news stories and reports of each death. That is just a few more than the 121 aliens charged with "homicide-related offenses" over a period of four years.

That is 121 that were released by the Obama administration, not all murders by Illegals.
 
To be fair, there is more likely far more "dirty" cops than there are illegals that commit murder. Heck I bet there are a few dirty cops who have murdered illegals and gotten away with it.

No, that is not "being fair". That is spouting bull **** that you can't back up.
 
More than 100 immigrants whom the Obama administration released back into the community went on to be charged with subsequent killings, according to government data released Monday that raises more questions about whether immigration authorities are doing enough to detail illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.

121 murders attributed to illegals released by Obama administration - Washington Times

Whatever the government touches, it turns to nightmare. Obama released these criminals onto our streets knowing that they are dangerous. We should stop the immigration. Right now our economy is struggling. Millions upon millions of Americans are out of work. 44 million Americans are on food stamps. 47 million Americans are living in poverty. We just can’t take in a whole lot of extra workers right now.

So with an illegal immigrant population of over 10 million we didn't even see over 200 murders?

I'd say that's pretty solid. Jail those 121 ****ers for life and continue letting those who show good behavior go.
 
I see.. so over a 4 year period. The average for those years was about 14800 murders per year.. so that is 59200 murders, and you are bitching about 121 immigrants?

It comes down to racism in many cases.
 
That is 121 that were released by the Obama administration, not all murders by Illegals.

That is 121 aliens accused of "homicide-related offenses" - please note that such offenses are not necessarily ranked as 1st or 2nd degree murder, then there is the whole thing about "innocent until proven guilty"

There is also the small matter that of the 121 released, 57 were released owing to legal processes in effect during the Bush years.
 
That is 121 aliens accused of "homicide-related offenses" - please note that such offenses are not necessarily ranked as 1st or 2nd degree murder, then there is the whole thing about "innocent until proven guilty"

There is also the small matter that of the 121 released, 57 were released owing to legal processes in effect during the Bush years.

I'm not even arguing the merit of the 121 cases, Somerville, only correcting you that the 121 does not represent all murders committed by illegals, on a narrow group of illegals that were captured and released and that it sure would be nice if some people would give even half the benefit of the doubt and statistical reasoning to police that they do to illegal immigrants.
 
I'm not even arguing the merit of the 121 cases, Somerville, only correcting you that the 121 does not represent all murders committed by illegals, on a narrow group of illegals that were captured and released and that it sure would be nice if some people would give even half the benefit of the doubt and statistical reasoning to police that they do to illegal immigrants.

Never said anything about the 121 being the only aliens accused of "homicide-related offenses", as that is not the subject of this thread.

Bit difficult to apply the "benefit of the doubt" when we have video evidence all too often showing a LEO lying about an incident. As others have noted, all too often even with such evidence, the 'thin blue line' stands up for the offenders and as a result the public is losing respect for all police officers even though the vast majority are good people. Good people should not defend bad ones simply because they belong to the same organisation.
 
Never said anything about the 121 being the only aliens accused of "homicide-related offenses", as that is not the subject of this thread.

I guess you need to be reminded about what you said:

To date, police in America have killed 520 in 2015 - KilledbyPolice.net with links to news stories and reports of each death. That is just a few more than the 121 aliens charged with "homicide-related offenses" over a period of four years.

You didn't qualify that statement with anything about released illegals, you portrayed the 121 to be all illegals charged compared to all police.

Bit difficult to apply the "benefit of the doubt" when we have video evidence all too often showing a LEO lying about an incident.

So you see afew videos and use that to guide your judgement on all cases? How wonderfully bigoted of you.

As others have noted, all too often even with such evidence, the 'thin blue line' stands up for the offenders and as a result the public is losing respect for all police officers even though the vast majority are good people. Good people should not defend bad ones simply because they belong to the same organisation.

So no "innocent until proven guilty" when it comes to police, eh? What makes that even worse is that your post just before this one showed you making the point that the illegal aliens were only accused.

Again, how wonderfully bigoted of you.
 
The question for me: Why didn't source of the original article, the Washington Times, provide this link? The letter shows nothing that really attempts to cover up any actions by the Administration, so why the failure on the part of the Times?

The Washington Times NEVER links to primary source material...just to other articles within their website. I've had that issue countless times when something provocative was posted using the Washington Times. Due to the fact they never list their primary sources and when those primary sources were found their reporting distorts what is actually said Washing Times shouldn't be considered "mainstream media".
 
I guess you need to be reminded about what you said:



You didn't qualify that statement with anything about released illegals, you portrayed the 121 to be all illegals charged compared to all police.



So you see afew videos and use that to guide your judgement on all cases? How wonderfully bigoted of you.



So no "innocent until proven guilty" when it comes to police, eh? What makes that even worse is that your post just before this one showed you making the point that the illegal aliens were only accused.

Again, how wonderfully bigoted of you.

Funny but my understanding of the word "bigoted" would not have included someone who posted the following -- "the public is losing respect for all police officers even though the vast majority are good people."

Bigotry is exemplified by the headline for this thread, the one taken directly from the WashTimes: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration Once again for the slow to comprehend: homicide-related offense does not equate to murder, it includes murder but also involves other crimes and even self-defence actions, along with accidents. Then the ever so small fact that slightly less than half of those released were let go owing to policies in place before Obama came into office, but never mind if some person who works for the federal government does something wrong or illegal it is Obama's fault because he only employs bigots who hate white people and christians. [/sarcasm]
 
Hmmm OK I get it It's Obama's fault folks are killing others, people have been murdering other people since our country was founded in 1776, it's all Obama's fault..

I suppose Obama gave them all the guns they needed too huh..

Is it Obama's fault Cops have been killing innocent people in this country for decades??? And getting away with it ?? Sure blame that on Obama too?? By oh means why not?

Reagan granted amnesty to millions of illegals back in the 80's I'm sure some of them killed people also, Obama was at Harvard back then , but I suppose the clowns on the right blame him for that too..
 
Funny but my understanding of the word "bigoted" would not have included someone who posted the following -- "the public is losing respect for all police officers even though the vast majority are good people."

Bigotry is exemplified by the headline for this thread, the one taken directly from the WashTimes: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration Once again for the slow to comprehend: homicide-related offense does not equate to murder, it includes murder but also involves other crimes and even self-defence actions, along with accidents. Then the ever so small fact that slightly less than half of those released were let go owing to policies in place before Obama came into office, but never mind if some person who works for the federal government does something wrong or illegal it is Obama's fault because he only employs bigots who hate white people and christians. [/sarcasm]
Yea gee White Cons just can't accept that the Muslim in the WH, hates whitey so much he hired one to be his VP, one Clinton to be his SOS, and put another one on the Supreme Court, SARCASM....

His MOM was White I suppose he hated her too?????
 
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