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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I see.. so over a 4 year period. The average for those years was about 14800 murders per year.. so that is 59200 murders, and you are bitching about 121 immigrants?
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    That is 121 that were released by the Obama administration, not all murders by Illegals.
    That is 121 aliens accused of "homicide-related offenses" - please note that such offenses are not necessarily ranked as 1st or 2nd degree murder, then there is the whole thing about "innocent until proven guilty"

    There is also the small matter that of the 121 released, 57 were released owing to legal processes in effect during the Bush years.
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    That is 121 aliens accused of "homicide-related offenses" - please note that such offenses are not necessarily ranked as 1st or 2nd degree murder, then there is the whole thing about "innocent until proven guilty"

    There is also the small matter that of the 121 released, 57 were released owing to legal processes in effect during the Bush years.
    I'm not even arguing the merit of the 121 cases, Somerville, only correcting you that the 121 does not represent all murders committed by illegals, on a narrow group of illegals that were captured and released and that it sure would be nice if some people would give even half the benefit of the doubt and statistical reasoning to police that they do to illegal immigrants.
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I'm not even arguing the merit of the 121 cases, Somerville, only correcting you that the 121 does not represent all murders committed by illegals, on a narrow group of illegals that were captured and released and that it sure would be nice if some people would give even half the benefit of the doubt and statistical reasoning to police that they do to illegal immigrants.
    Never said anything about the 121 being the only aliens accused of "homicide-related offenses", as that is not the subject of this thread.

    Bit difficult to apply the "benefit of the doubt" when we have video evidence all too often showing a LEO lying about an incident. As others have noted, all too often even with such evidence, the 'thin blue line' stands up for the offenders and as a result the public is losing respect for all police officers even though the vast majority are good people. Good people should not defend bad ones simply because they belong to the same organisation.
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Never said anything about the 121 being the only aliens accused of "homicide-related offenses", as that is not the subject of this thread.
    I guess you need to be reminded about what you said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    To date, police in America have killed 520 in 2015 - KilledbyPolice.net with links to news stories and reports of each death. That is just a few more than the 121 aliens charged with "homicide-related offenses" over a period of four years.
    You didn't qualify that statement with anything about released illegals, you portrayed the 121 to be all illegals charged compared to all police.

    Bit difficult to apply the "benefit of the doubt" when we have video evidence all too often showing a LEO lying about an incident.
    So you see afew videos and use that to guide your judgement on all cases? How wonderfully bigoted of you.

    As others have noted, all too often even with such evidence, the 'thin blue line' stands up for the offenders and as a result the public is losing respect for all police officers even though the vast majority are good people. Good people should not defend bad ones simply because they belong to the same organisation.
    So no "innocent until proven guilty" when it comes to police, eh? What makes that even worse is that your post just before this one showed you making the point that the illegal aliens were only accused.

    Again, how wonderfully bigoted of you.
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post

    The question for me: Why didn't source of the original article, the Washington Times, provide this link? The letter shows nothing that really attempts to cover up any actions by the Administration, so why the failure on the part of the Times?
    The Washington Times NEVER links to primary source material...just to other articles within their website. I've had that issue countless times when something provocative was posted using the Washington Times. Due to the fact they never list their primary sources and when those primary sources were found their reporting distorts what is actually said Washing Times shouldn't be considered "mainstream media".
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I guess you need to be reminded about what you said:



    You didn't qualify that statement with anything about released illegals, you portrayed the 121 to be all illegals charged compared to all police.



    So you see afew videos and use that to guide your judgement on all cases? How wonderfully bigoted of you.



    So no "innocent until proven guilty" when it comes to police, eh? What makes that even worse is that your post just before this one showed you making the point that the illegal aliens were only accused.

    Again, how wonderfully bigoted of you.
    Funny but my understanding of the word "bigoted" would not have included someone who posted the following -- "the public is losing respect for all police officers even though the vast majority are good people."

    Bigotry is exemplified by the headline for this thread, the one taken directly from the WashTimes: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration Once again for the slow to comprehend: homicide-related offense does not equate to murder, it includes murder but also involves other crimes and even self-defence actions, along with accidents. Then the ever so small fact that slightly less than half of those released were let go owing to policies in place before Obama came into office, but never mind if some person who works for the federal government does something wrong or illegal it is Obama's fault because he only employs bigots who hate white people and christians. [/sarcasm]
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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Hmmm OK I get it It's Obama's fault folks are killing others, people have been murdering other people since our country was founded in 1776, it's all Obama's fault..

    I suppose Obama gave them all the guns they needed too huh..

    Is it Obama's fault Cops have been killing innocent people in this country for decades??? And getting away with it ?? Sure blame that on Obama too?? By oh means why not?

    Reagan granted amnesty to millions of illegals back in the 80's I'm sure some of them killed people also, Obama was at Harvard back then , but I suppose the clowns on the right blame him for that too..

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    Re: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Funny but my understanding of the word "bigoted" would not have included someone who posted the following -- "the public is losing respect for all police officers even though the vast majority are good people."

    Bigotry is exemplified by the headline for this thread, the one taken directly from the WashTimes: 121 Murders Attributed To Illegals Released by Obama Administration Once again for the slow to comprehend: homicide-related offense does not equate to murder, it includes murder but also involves other crimes and even self-defence actions, along with accidents. Then the ever so small fact that slightly less than half of those released were let go owing to policies in place before Obama came into office, but never mind if some person who works for the federal government does something wrong or illegal it is Obama's fault because he only employs bigots who hate white people and christians. [/sarcasm]
    Yea gee White Cons just can't accept that the Muslim in the WH, hates whitey so much he hired one to be his VP, one Clinton to be his SOS, and put another one on the Supreme Court, SARCASM....

    His MOM was White I suppose he hated her too?????

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