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CIA torture appears to have broken spy agency rule on human experimentation

My heart just bleeds peanut butter for these poor, abused, asswipes that would just as soon blow up my children as to look at them.

I give 'em all a big ol' wah, wah, wah.... :2bigcry:

Is this a justification?
 
Sounds good to me.

So torture is okay, and human experimentation are okay because you have no empathy for them? Forget the whole concept if it actually works or not in intel gathering, or is an effective measure, or even if they are guilty of a crime, you lack empathy for them therefore its okay... Is that right?

I feel like thats even a worse justification than your "well if we dont torture we are gonna loose to the terrorists!" justification...
 
Yep, I have no fear. Only preparedness and a lack of empathy for those captured on the battle field doing harm to our service members.

No you clealry have fear. Your fear if our nation doesnt torture somehow they "will do worse" to us, fear of if we dont torture and conduct 'human expriemrements' on them that they "may attempt to do to me or my family". Like I said, your whole justification is rooted in fear. Fear of if our nation does not partake in this action that they somehow will do worse to us, or they will do something undesirable to your family. You use this justification of we must do this action in attempts to stop a non-desirble action that may endanger others. AKA fear.
 
No you clealry have fear. Your fear if our nation doesnt torture somehow they "will do worse" to us, fear of if we dont torture and conduct 'human expriemrements' on them that they "may attempt to do to me or my family". Like I said, your whole justification is rooted in fear. Fear of if our nation does not partake in this action that they somehow will do worse to us, or they will do something undesirable to your family. You use this justification of we must do this action in attempts to stop a non-desirble action that may endanger others. AKA fear.
I quit reading at "clearly have fear". You don't know the first thing about me.
I have loathing if anything of those people. Not fear. I have zero compassion. I have no empathy. I have no want of understanding of them. I don't feel sorry for them. My heart doesn't bleed for them.
I will live all that up to your type.
But I can guarantee you, I have no fear.
 
So torture is okay, and human experimentation are okay because you have no empathy for them? Forget the whole concept if it actually works or not in intel gathering, or is an effective measure, or even if they are guilty of a crime, you lack empathy for them therefore its okay... Is that right?

I feel like thats even a worse justification than your "well if we dont torture we are gonna loose to the terrorists!" justification...
Quote me on saying "well if we don't torture we are gonna lose to the terrorists".
 
I quit reading at "clearly have fear". You don't know the first thing about me.
I have loathing if anything of those people. Not fear. I have zero compassion. I have no empathy. I have no want of understanding of them. I don't feel sorry for them. My heart doesn't bleed for them.
I will live all that up to your type.
But I can guarantee you, I have no fear.

So what happens if we dont torture? You said we have to because if we dont they will do worse to us, or worse to your family... How is that whole justification not based on fear? If we dont torture then this undesirable action will happen.
 
Quote me on saying "well if we don't torture we are gonna lose to the terrorists".

Well your right its not a quote. But your whole justification of "they will do worse to us" seems like you are doing it to try to mitigate or make progress in the "war on terror"....
 
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Why arent those who are responsible for such inhumane, evil, and just outright criminal activities in jail? Why are they being given a free pass? This is freaking outrageous.

The only thing I can think of its the "My team vs your team" factor. As long as people are American and the violators are American they will always side with the American over the victim, if the victim isnt American. Like some of my distant families posts on facebook... They really dont care if America bombs indiscriminately, some Americans are huge fans of vicarious revenge news tickers.
 
I say I don't care what happens those at Guantanamo.

What if Guantanamo was a indoctrination place to turn muslims into ISIS terrorists through torture and well placed propaganda? Would you care then if it was secretly churning out hundreds of mercenaries a month?
 
What if Guantanamo was a indoctrination place to turn muslims into ISIS terrorists through torture and well placed propaganda? Would you care then if it was secretly churning out hundreds of mercenaries a month?

What if what if what if what if.
 
Well your right its not a quote. But your whole justification of "they will do worse to us" seems like you are doing it to try to mitigate or make progress in the "war on terror"....

"But", "seems like", "trying". Try some what ifs maybe next time.
 
What if what if what if what if.

But thats it. You have NO IDEA whats going on in there, in the name of America, and you dont care. When literally ANYTHING could be going on. Even nazi like experiements on peoples bodies and minds.
 
But thats it. You have NO IDEA whats going on in there, in the name of America, and you dont care. When literally ANYTHING could be going on. Even nazi like experiements on peoples bodies and minds.

You have no idea either. So quit worrying about it.
 
You have no idea either. So quit worrying about it.

We do know that people were tortured, even innocent people were tortured. And you have no problem with it. Why? Because for some reason you think it does good.
 
But thats it. You have NO IDEA whats going on in there, in the name of America, and you dont care. When literally ANYTHING could be going on. Even nazi like experiements on peoples bodies and minds.

Do you usually attribute Nazi-like characteristics to things to admit to knowing nothing about?
 
Do you usually attribute Nazi-like characteristics to things to admit to knowing nothing about?

No but when I hear of directors being allowed control of medical experiments in secret prisons then for some odd reason stuff like this instantly pops into my mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation

I assume they are putting captured people in cold environments on purpose to test caloric depletion and what sorta industrial bi-product feeds them best. Or worse. I wouldnt be suprised if they were testing out new munitions and stuff on them. Whatever is going on in there is probably best not left secret if you want this country to have integrity. The faster we shut down these secret prisons and turn in the overseers of these projects over to world courts the better.
 
No but when I hear of directors being allowed control of medical experiments in secret prisons then for some odd reason stuff like this instantly pops into my mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation

I assume they are putting captured people in cold environments on purpose to test caloric depletion and what sorta industrial bi-product feeds them best. Or worse. I wouldnt be suprised if they were testing out new munitions and stuff on them. Whatever is going on in there is probably best not left secret if you want this country to have integrity. The faster we shut down these secret prisons and turn in the overseers of these projects over to world courts the better.

So you know nothing and choose to fill in the blanks with a vivid imagination.
 
So you know nothing and choose to fill in the blanks with a vivid imagination.

Ya. I do fill in blanks with imagination.

Lets say your wife goes to a "secret group meeting" ever Saturday night. And she sets up rules. Its secret. You arent allowed to go. And they only do mock sex stuff behind closed doors. (its not torture just mock torture so its legal) Bug muscle bound sexy strippers comming into the front door. So people start thinking up keywords and misnomers and renaming stuff, or they just flat out break the rules when noone is looking. Because its secret. Like one of the strippers decides to call his penis an "appendage" or "tool" instead of a penis. So shes somehow technically not breaking any rules..... (but obviously breaking the spirit of the rules, in a very slight-of-hand type of way)

Is your wife cheating on you?

WHY WOULD YOU WANT SECRET PRISONS?! Especially when they flirt with the very extreme definitions and fringes of the laws.

Why would you trust then to do stuff in secret and simply not care? Because you dont care.
 
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