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    Re: CIA torture appears to have broken spy agency rule on human experimentation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Why arent those who are responsible for such inhumane, evil, and just outright criminal activities in jail? Why are they being given a free pass? This is freaking outrageous.
    I'm not sure we can send anyone to jail for waterboarding, since we waterboard our own special ops teams as part of their training.
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    Re: CIA torture appears to have broken spy agency rule on human experimentation

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    I'm not sure we can send anyone to jail for waterboarding, since we waterboard our own special ops teams as part of their training.
    I think that is true. I also think that the people that call it as described in the manual torture are dispicable.

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    Re: CIA torture appears to have broken spy agency rule on human experimentation

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    I'm not sure we can send anyone to jail for waterboarding, since we waterboard our own special ops teams as part of their training.
    Yes, as part of their training, and when they signed up for the program, OBVIOUSLY they agreed to be trained.

    It is when waterboarding is applied NOT in a training environment that it is illegal. That is, when the person being waterboarded does not consent.

    See the difference?

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    Re: CIA torture appears to have broken spy agency rule on human experimentation

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    Yes, as part of their training, and when they signed up for the program, OBVIOUSLY they agreed to be trained.

    It is when waterboarding is applied NOT in a training environment that it is illegal. That is, when the person being waterboarded does not consent.

    See the difference?

    I don't really see the difference. Either the activity is inhumane or it isn't. Our military should not be subjecting our own soldiers to something that is inhumane, for any reason. So, that leaves the fact that it must not be inhumane. It might be "questionable" but because we do it to our own soldiers - it can't be considered torture.
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    Re: CIA torture appears to have broken spy agency rule on human experimentation

    What's the news? This has been going on since the 60's. We require these people to be 'safe', 'human' or 'ethical' but we forget that they didn't know what those words mean.

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    Re: CIA torture appears to have broken spy agency rule on human experimentation

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    I'm not sure we can send anyone to jail for waterboarding, since we waterboard our own special ops teams as part of their training.
    I still dont think thats a justification..... Nor do they undergo the same waterboarding techniques we use on "combatants". We use a much more extreme and brutal form of waterboarding. And we also just didnt waterboard.
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    That CIA organization is a demon(monkey) organization unable to stop a live threat. We need humans(god's men) organizations to stop the lethal threats of east or the America will be eaten, if it is not, from this shark of place. FBI chaps didnt grow enough and this was a bad sign.

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    Re: CIA torture appears to have broken spy agency rule on human experimentation

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    I don't really see the difference. Either the activity is inhumane or it isn't. Our military should not be subjecting our own soldiers to something that is inhumane, for any reason. So, that leaves the fact that it must not be inhumane. It might be "questionable" but because we do it to our own soldiers - it can't be considered torture.
    It is the context in which it is done, not the act itself. Having coitus with a woman can be either love making or rape, but it is the very same act.

    Assaulting another person is a crime. You would have me believe that it's OK if the government does it, but a crime if an ordinary citizen does it?

    If some of those GIs are a little bit kinky, they might enjoy being waterboarded.

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    Re: CIA torture appears to have broken spy agency rule on human experimentation

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    By their willingness to do worse to us.
    Except the innocent ones, until we lock them up for and torture them for years on end, at which point they are liable to change their minds.

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