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Rachel Dolezal resigns as NAACP leader amid racial identity controversy

The Duggars are happy this crazy woman showed up. Same as Tim Hunter. Wonder who we will get next week.
 
Link please?

The parents said they were contacted by the Coeur d'Alene Press. Here's info on that:

COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho -

Rachel Dolezal, the white Spokane civil rights leader who was caught masquerading as a black woman, has now resigned as president of the NAACP. Her tale of using disguises to lead a double life has made international news but actually got it's start as a story in the Coeur d'Alene Press.

That story was broken by veteran reporter Jeff Selle at the Coeur d'Alene Press, where his editors were worried that a rash of hate crimes Dolezal was reporting in Coeur d'Alene might not be legitimate. When Dolezal told police the same type of racial harassment was happening after she moved to Spokane, KXLY and the Coeur d'Alene Press decided to take a closer look.

“I got all of the police reports she had filed in Coeur d'Alene, found out none of them were actually resolved and a lot of them were pretty curious,” Selle said.

Selle was also curious about rumblings he had heard that Dolezal wasn't even African American, especially after she posted pictures of an African American man Dolezal claimed was her father.

“We started finding all sorts of things that didn't add up. We laid it all out on a table and took a look at it and said we got a story here,” Selle said. How the Coeur d'Alene Press broke the Dolezal story | North Idaho - KXLY.com

Then I had the city wrong.

I listened to the parents interview and that is what I got out of it.
 
From the Seattle CBS affiliate:

Dolezal’s statement reads, “While challenging the construct of race is at the core of evolving human consciousness, we can NOT afford to lose sight of the five Game Changers (Criminal Justice & Public Safety, Health & Healthcare, Education, Economic Sustainability, and Voting Rights & Political Representation) that affect millions, often with a life or death outcome. The movement is larger than a moment in time or a single person’s story, and I hope that everyone offers their robust support of the Journey for Justice campaign that the NAACP launches today!

“It is with complete allegiance to the cause of racial and social justice and the NAACP that I step aside from the Presidency and pass the baton to my Vice President, Naima Quarles-Burnley. It is my hope that by securing a beautiful office for the organization in the heart of downtown, bringing the local branch into financial compliance, catalyzing committees to do strategic work in the five Game Changer issues, launching community forums, putting the membership on a fast climb, and helping many individuals find the legal, financial and practical support needed to fight race-based discrimination, I have positioned the Spokane NAACP to buttress this transition.” Rachel Dolezal Resigns As NAACP Leader Amid Controversy « CBS Seattle

Brazenly self-aggrandizing even now. :roll:
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All I want to know is, if a cop shoots her, do we riot or not?

:shrug:
 
Thanks for posting this vid clip. I thought Matt Lauer conducted a great interview. My, but Rachel Dolezal is a slippery, evasive one.

Interesting how Dolezal talks about being described as “trans-racial.” Perhaps this is the angle
she will run with.

I wonder what she means when she accuses her parents of “whitewashing” some of the work she’s done. Poor Rachel. Also interesting is how she claims that she lost her full-ride scholarship and TAship because “other people needed opportunities, and you probably have white relatives and that, you know, that can afford to help you with your tuition, and I thought that this was an injustice.” I don’t know what FERPA restraints Howard University is under or whether it will be able to comment, but I hope it can. How convenient for Dolezal if it can't, however.

When Lauer asks Dolezal whether, given all the fallout, she’d make the same choices and softballs her the question of what positive discussion she hopes to prompt, she says she’d make the same choices and adds “"well, as much as this discussion has somewhat been at my expense recently and in a very sort of viciously inhumane way." Is she always the victim?

She also says her life has been one of survival (I guess this harkens back to her fiction about being forced by her parents to live in a teepee) and that the decisions she has made along the way including how she identifies has been to survive. Oh, the drama with her narcissistic self in the center. :roll:

Her reply when Lauer asks whether she could have been as effective an NAACP leader as a Caucasian woman, she actually says she hasn’t had “the opportunity to experience that in those shoes.” Really, the chutzpah of saying she hasn’t had this “opportunity” is astounding.

One of her sons—not sure whether she means her biological son or the adopted brother she adopted—has told her that that racially, she’s human, but culturally, she’s black. Mentally, Dolezal is out of touch with reality.

She’s also a brazen opportunist and liar. I want to learn more, much more, about her claims of hate-crime victimhood and why all of the investigations were closed.

But I don’t expect her to give a straight answer. She’s very evasive. I think that she’s going to have glib, jargon-laden non-answers for every question and that she will continue to babble about the “complexity” of her race, more “complex, you know, than being true or false.” Sort of like how she acknowledges that her 16-year old self in the photo is "visibly" a Caucasian. :roll:

I want to know what the hell she's using on her hair that makes that **** turn in accordance with her head. I've seen afros, perms, jerries, and not EVER has the hair done **** like that. It literally turns with her head. Every strand of it moves with her head....
 
From the Seattle CBS affiliate:

Dolezal’s statement reads, “While challenging the construct of race is at the core of evolving human consciousness, we can NOT afford to lose sight of the five Game Changers (Criminal Justice & Public Safety, Health & Healthcare, Education, Economic Sustainability, and Voting Rights & Political Representation) that affect millions, often with a life or death outcome. The movement is larger than a moment in time or a single person’s story, and I hope that everyone offers their robust support of the Journey for Justice campaign that the NAACP launches today!

“It is with complete allegiance to the cause of racial and social justice and the NAACP that I step aside from the Presidency and pass the baton to my Vice President, Naima Quarles-Burnley. It is my hope that by securing a beautiful office for the organization in the heart of downtown, bringing the local branch into financial compliance, catalyzing committees to do strategic work in the five Game Changer issues, launching community forums, putting the membership on a fast climb, and helping many individuals find the legal, financial and practical support needed to fight race-based discrimination, I have positioned the Spokane NAACP to buttress this transition.” Rachel Dolezal Resigns As NAACP Leader Amid Controversy « CBS Seattle

Brazenly self-aggrandizing even now. :roll:
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As the story first broke, my initial thought was: "Scam artist out to play the system for financial/political advantage".

Then as it rolled-on, my thoughts were" "Caught, and doubling down - possibly to avoid legal ramifications".

But now after seeing a live interview with her, and reading even more of her handling the crises management: "Yowza! She might *really be* a LooneyTune, after-all"!
 
I want to know what the hell she's using on her hair that makes that **** turn in accordance with her head. I've seen afros, perms, jerries, and not EVER has the hair done **** like that. It literally turns with her head. Every strand of it moves with her head....

Her hair is expensive, and because so many people have been interested in it, she's said it's a weave. Rachel Dolezal puts hair questions to rest - CNN.com

On a purely personal and petty level, Dolezal misappropriating--mimicking --and lecturing in class on the intimate subject of hair pisses me off. She has no idea, no understanding or experience at all, and certainly not in her formative years.
 
On a purely personal and petty level, Dolezal misappropriating--mimicking --and lecturing in class on the intimate subject of hair pisses me off. She has no idea, no understanding or experience at all, and certainly not in her formative years.

You're right - that is petty.
 
You're right - that is petty.

Not that you have even an inkling of what I'm referencing. Trust me when I tell you that you don't want to delve into the poetic realm here...again, not that you would understand what I'm saying, much less appreciate why I'm saying it.
 
Not that you have even an inkling of what I'm referencing. Trust me when I tell you that you don't want to delve into the poetic realm here...again, not that you would understand what I'm saying, much less appreciate why I'm saying it.

Give me a chance, you'll find I understand a great deal more than you think I do.

In her formative years, sure, she would likely not know. But, given that she's purposefully created that style now for over a decade, and she was asked about it - it's fair for her to explain.
 
Give me a chance, you'll find I understand a great deal more than you think I do.

In her formative years, sure, she would likely not know. But, given that she's purposefully created that style now for over a decade, and she was asked about it - it's fair for her to explain.

Dolezal holds an MFA, and it's not in creative writing. She isn't qualified to lecture on poetry, period. (She was using the poetry only as a platform, and I understand this.)

And she is a Caucasian woman who wears a "black-looking" style with "black-looking" hair. She has no idea at all what it's like to be a little black girl and to experience what women of color do, particularly if they reject artificial standards of Caucasian-defined beauty. No clue at all, and she has some nerve posing as someone who does.
 
The Duggars are happy this crazy woman showed up. Same as Tim Hunter. Wonder who we will get next week.

Isn't it amazing how something is front and center for days....and then some other freaky incident happens and you never hear about the other story again?
 
Dolezal holds an MFA, and it's not in creative writing. She isn't qualified to lecture on poetry, period. (She was using the poetry only as a platform, and I understand this.)

And she is a Caucasian woman who wears a "black-looking" style with "black-looking" hair. She has no idea at all what it's like to be a little black girl and to experience what women of color do, particularly if they reject artificial standards of Caucasian-defined beauty. No clue at all, and she has some nerve posing as someone who does.

I saw something this morning, I actually think it was Fox and Friends, anyway they showed a clip of her giving a video interview to a student who was doing a senior project. In the interview this dumb ass said how hard it was to be a black woman in Spokane, and among other things she said it was hard to decide when to use your EBT card to buy groceries when white customers are around. :shock: Not kidding. As if her lies weren't bad enough, but that is actually a slap to black women in Spokane. EBT cards?
 
Isn't it amazing how something is front and center for days....and then some other freaky incident happens and you never hear about the other story again?

And so goes the well known 15 minutes of fame.
 
Dolezal holds an MFA, and it's not in creative writing. She isn't qualified to lecture on poetry, period. (She was using the poetry only as a platform, and I understand this.)

And she is a Caucasian woman who wears a "black-looking" style with "black-looking" hair. She has no idea at all what it's like to be a little black girl and to experience what women of color do, particularly if they reject artificial standards of Caucasian-defined beauty. No clue at all, and she has some nerve posing as someone who does.

Agreed, she cannot know what it is like to be a little black girl and have the experience of tending her own hair. I remember when the local doctor and his wife adopted a baby who turned out to be half-black. They were unaware of that when they adopted, but the new mother made the comment that she "couldn't stand the baby's hair." So, yes, I can see that there is a big difference. That little girl, is grown now, and is stunningly beautiful. And, yes, she adopted what you call Caucasian-defined beauty standards. She's fairly light-skinned and now you've got me wondering whether she puts her race as "black" or "white" on job and college applications.
 
As an American black, I'm fine with her "becoming" black.

I mean seriously, my grandmother looks more "white" than she does.
 
I saw something this morning, I actually think it was Fox and Friends, anyway they showed a clip of her giving a video interview to a student who was doing a senior project. In the interview this dumb ass said how hard it was to be a black woman in Spokane, and among other things she said it was hard to decide when to use your EBT card to buy groceries when white customers are around. :shock: Not kidding. As if her lies weren't bad enough, but that is actually a slap to black women in Spokane. EBT cards?

I watched some of Fox and Friends, saw Sharpton defending her while shaming her parents for being honest.
They also reported that this woman has been offered a TV reality show. Move over Duggers meet Dolezal.
 
Ok, so now my two cents, as if anyone cases....

She lost me at...The blatant lies and falsehoods, and continued to perpetuate the lie in the face of clear unequivocal evidence to the contrary.

What do I think about "transracial"? Don't care she lied.

What do I think about her childhood? Don't care she lied.

The sad part about all of this is that she will profit from all of this, in self-aggrandizement and, at the very least, the book deal and speaking engagements she will profit from.

She's done nothing to deserve it.

She is a "social justice warrior" who lied to make her point. While the issues that her situation reveals are real, she doesn't deserve to be the poster child for them.

/rant off
 
Nuttier than a fruitcake.

I predict that we'll hear more from this person.

I see a movie in the immediate future. The big question is who gets to portray Ms Dolezal?
 
I watched some of Fox and Friends, saw Sharpton defending her while shaming her parents for being honest.
They also reported that this woman has been offered a TV reality show. Move over Duggers meet Dolezal.

Sharpton is a ****ing idiot so it's not a surprise to read this. Of course he wants to shame her parents. That's the way idiots think.

When did it become a bad thing to tell the truth?
 
1. I watched some of Fox and Friends, saw Sharpton defending her while shaming her parents for being honest.
2. They also reported that this woman has been offered a TV reality show. Move over Duggers meet Dolezal.

1. Which tells us a lot about Sharpton. Honesty isn't his long suit.

2. Maybe she isn't a crazy as we think.
 
I watched some of Fox and Friends, saw Sharpton defending her while shaming her parents for being honest.
They also reported that this woman has been offered a TV reality show. Move over Duggers meet Dolezal.

There's some history involved in that. If a black person passes as white, their parent will deny any relation to them for the sake of their child's life. There was probably some expectation from Sharpton that her parents will do the same.
 
There's some history involved in that. If a black person passes as white, their parent will deny any relation to them for the sake of their child's life. There was probably some expectation from Sharpton that her parents will do the same.

What? Where does this idea that "If a black person passes as white, their parent will deny any relation to them for the sake of their child's life"?
 
I watched some of Fox and Friends, saw Sharpton defending her while shaming her parents for being honest.
They also reported that this woman has been offered a TV reality show. Move over Duggers meet Dolezal.

Wow, maybe we've been had. Makes me wonder if this whole thing wasn't orchestrated. :shock:
 
What? Where does this idea that "If a black person passes as white, their parent will deny any relation to them for the sake of their child's life"?

Ummm... history?
 
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