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    Re: Rachel Dolezal resigns as NAACP leader amid racial identity controversy

    And no apology for lying? Classy.

    The thing is she was fully qualified for the job without lying about her family history. The NAACP DOES hire non-blacks into positions of leadership.

    Comparing her situation to that of transgender people doesn't make sense, though. The consensus in the medical community seems to be that gender dysphoria is genetic or at least affected by the in-utero environment. Culture is not biological. The divisions we draw between societies of different ethnicities are social constructs.

    So you can't say you were born into the wrong race because NOBODY is born being wired to associate with one race over the other. It is all societal conditioning. That is different than being transgender. Yes, our particular gender roles are defined by societal conditioning but that inner affiliation with being masculine or feminine is affected by how our brains are wired, which is affected by various biological factors such as hormones, both pre and post-birth.

    That said, I don't have a personal problem with someone wanting to identify with an ethnicity other than the one they were born into. But I don't think you have to concoct a web of lies in order to do that.

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    Re: Rachel Dolezal resigns as NAACP leader amid racial identity controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    And no apology for lying? Classy.

    The thing is she was fully qualified for the job without lying about her family history. The NAACP DOES hire non-blacks into positions of leadership.

    Comparing her situation to that of transgender people doesn't make sense, though. The consensus in the medical community seems to be that gender dysphoria is genetic or at least affected by the in-utero environment. Culture is not biological. The divisions we draw between societies of different ethnicities are social constructs.

    So you can't say you were born into the wrong race because NOBODY is born being wired to associate with one race over the other. It is all societal conditioning. That is different than being transgender. Yes, our particular gender roles are defined by societal conditioning but that inner affiliation with being masculine or feminine is affected by how our brains are wired, which is affected by various biological in outs such as hormones, both pre and post-birth.

    That said, I don't have a personal problem with someone wanting to identify with an ethnicity other than the one they were born into. But I don't think you have to concoct a web of lies in order to do that.
    Both transgender and whatever trans she is are clearly mental and/or genetic disorders.

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    Re: Rachel Dolezal resigns as NAACP leader amid racial identity controversy

    If Michael Jackson was able to transform himself from a black male to a white female, then a white female should be able to become a black male.

    Logically, anyway.

    Or at least a black female.
    Its an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew health care could be so complicated. Donald Trump



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    Re: Rachel Dolezal resigns as NAACP leader amid racial identity controversy

    When your children get a job, you don't sabotage them by challenging their qualifications publicly.

    If the only way to get that job was to lie, then shame on the liar and the organization with a racial requirement.

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    Re: Rachel Dolezal resigns as NAACP leader amid racial identity controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Both transgender and whatever trans she is are clearly mental and/or genetic disorders.
    Gender dysphoria is definitely a disorder, hence it being a medical diagnosis. Somebody who is transgender is someone who has chosen to treat the dysphoria by bringing their outer self more in line with their mental self.

    Transracial? I don't see how something not rooted in biology (culture) can have a biological cause. I am not a psychiatrist though.

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    Re: Rachel Dolezal resigns as NAACP leader amid racial identity controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Damn.
    She's just plain old nutz.


    Nuttier than a fruitcake.

    I predict that we'll hear more from this person.

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    Re: Rachel Dolezal resigns as NAACP leader amid racial identity controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Gender dysphoria is definitely a disorder, hence it being a medical diagnosis. Somebody who is transgender is someone who has chosen to treat the dysphoria by bringing their outer self more in line with their mental self.

    Transracial? I don't see how something not rooted in biology (culture) can have a biological cause. I am not a psychiatrist though.
    Your description sounds like what she did(hair, skin), and it seems like a mental disorder.

    Who knows, maybe plastic surgery was next in line.

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    Re: Rachel Dolezal resigns as NAACP leader amid racial identity controversy

    Just when I was about to change my race to White/Hispanic.....Damn you Rachel!!

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    Re: Rachel Dolezal resigns as NAACP leader amid racial identity controversy

    I am following the Jenner and Dolezal lead. If I ever fall on hard times and lose my house I will claim that I identify as a rare turtle and that evicting me would be a local extinction event.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Rachel Dolezal resigns as NAACP leader amid racial identity controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Nuttier than a fruitcake.

    I predict that we'll hear more from this person.
    Yes, as a host for some show on MSNBC.

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