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Mitt Romney: Look at how much money Hillary Clinton is making!

So, I am lying? About what, specifically? Is the bet offered Perry a lie; the comment about the 47%; his tax policy? No, all of that is true.

It is ironic that YOU demand "If you have a reasonable point make it" when all you seem to post is off-the-cuff remarks and insults.

His comments about the 47% were FALSE save one. He got the percentage of non-net income taxpayers approximately right. Everything else he claimed about them as a whole was pure BS.
 
He insinuated that 47% of the country were lazy bums who didn't pay taxes because they didn't want to work.
So now you've gone from what he said to what he "insinuated". This is why you, and millions like you, are called 'low information voters'. If someone tells you that he called people "moochers' you'll believe it and then actually claim he said it. This is how easy it is for politicians to manipulate the minds of those who just haven't learned to pay attention or think things through. Jonathan Gruber had a word for these types.
Never mind that his company was responsible for thousands of layoffs.
And keep in mind that he created many more thousands of jobs. How many jobs did his opponent ever create?
Turns out that most of those lazy bums that Romney wanted to ignore have to work two or three minimum wage jobs just to make ends meet because they weren't born with a silver spoon up their butt.
Why are you calling people who work at two or three jobs "lazy bums"? Perhaps you should listen to the tape with someone more worldly than yourself and they can explain it to you.
 
It's true that a candidate for President should write off 47% of voters because they are moochers? It was that attitude that was insulting.
Yet another who either hasn't heard the tape or doesn't understand it. It seems you, and those like you, are immune to embarrassment.

Also, those who believe this cannot be insulted. Gruber called you what you are and you will still carry on with business as usual, unable to decipher simple words or grasp simple concepts. Instead you twist words and meanings into what others say you heard and will continue to distort reality in order to substantiate your own child-like beliefs.
 
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Hillary needs to run on her record and Obama policy successes. :lol:
They will ignore her record and her failures but instead will concentrate on her message of class warfare. They are that easily manipulated.
 
I can't believe we're still discussing this.

Romney claimed that the 47% of Americans who don't make enough to pay income tax (a figure that includes children and retirees) don't take responsibility for their own lives, rely on government for everything, and are guaranteed Obama voters. All three of which were ludicrously wrong.

Those were his words.
Then quote his words. Your interpretation will just not do.
 
What's your point? Marginalizing nearly half of the population with untrue statements was a stupid thing to do, and it cost him dearly. Good. Mitt Romney is an asshole.
Please use actual quotes and not what you feel he might have said.
 
She has no record to run on. Time for people to help her and her sycophants to realize.....they are the Joke of the neighborhood. Especially all those Illiberals.
Hillary is actually dumbing down her rhetoric in order to appeal to these people. It's really disappointing to watch. Not in Hillary of course, she will say whatever her handlers tell her to say. But that people will actually support and believe her is a modern tragedy.
 
I can't believe we're still discussing this.

Romney claimed that the 47% of Americans who don't make enough to pay income tax (a figure that includes children and retirees) don't take responsibility for their own lives, rely on government for everything, and are guaranteed Obama voters. All three of which were ludicrously wrong.

Those were his words.

The first were an exaggeration, but the last one was spot on....and the primary reason for the remark.
 
"Hypocrisy" -- I don't think that word means what you think it means.

So, if you're a politician who advocates higher taxes on high incomes and a stronger social safety net -- but you yourself earn enough from various sources that you will pay some of those higher taxes and are unlikely to rely on that stronger safety net. A remarkable number of people look at that combination of personal and political positions and cry "Hypocrisy!"

No, it isn't. Supporting policies that are to your personal financial disadvantage isn't hypocrisy, it's civic virtue.

LOL

What a load of BS spin. Making millions through non-profit shenanigans is the pure definition of hypocritical greed. You clearly don't understand that for sure.

Civic virtue. Geeze, that is pathetic.
 
In that video is said, "47% of the people are dependent upon the government." That's saying they are moochers. It's equivalent to saying to someone, "the words that you said are knowingly false," and then claiming you didn't call them a liar.

Not only that but the dig on the 47% isn't even true, of the 47% of Americans that don't pay federal income taxes, most of them work and they also pay payroll taxes.

You know who I call moochers? The multi-billion dollar corporations that hire slick accountants and lobbyists so they avoid paying taxes.
Of course they have taxes taken off of their paychecks, but then when they file their Federal Income Tax return, they get back more than they paid in, so they end up not paying any federal income tax. I know one person who had $3000 federal income tax deducted from their pay last year, then when they filed their federal return, they got a $7000 refund. There are many people like that, and most are dependent on receiving that refund. That's not being insulting, it's true.
 
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I for one would love to see your citation for supposing that the left doesn't think anyone at all should be rich or that becoming rich is a sin.

In what way does your comment relate in the slightest degree to what I posted? I for one would like to see that.
 
I don't. Bt the people that can afford one should not tell others they are too rich.

Do you think Hillary should have mentioned that her son in law is a hedge-manager? What about that Chelsea was hired as one after she graduated?

Should she have been saying what she did about those hedge managers knowing her family members are involved in it?
 
The first were an exaggeration, but the last one was spot on....and the primary reason for the remark.

You seriously think that every voter who was a non-net taxpayer voted for Obama?
 
You don't know how elections work. Get serious. I don't feel like engaging any of your silliness today.

actually we do that is why America lost, and Romney is doing ok.
 
He didn't insult people who work hard for a living. That's why he still received 47% of the total votes cast.
He insulted "low income earners". Making minimum wage doesn't mean they don't work hard enough. Stats show that most low income earners tend to be young single mothers.

Who are Low-Wage Workers? ASPE Research Brief

Working full time and raising a family alone has to be one of the hardest jobs on earth, imo. The last thing they need is some pompous ass in the WH making their lives harder. Besides, Romney doesn't believe single mothers should be raising kids at all and has blamed them for everything under the sun, including gun violence....

Romney on gun control at the presidential debate: Ladies, please stop having babies out of wedlock.


And when he was Bishop of his ward he tried to bully a young single woman into giving up her baby for adoption and threatened to excommunicate her if she didn't.....

"...Hayes was deeply insulted. She told him she would never surrender her child. Sure, her life wasn’t exactly the picture of Rockwellian harmony, but she felt she was on a path to stability. In that moment, she also felt intimidated. Here was Romney, who held great power as her church leader and was the head of a wealthy, prominent Belmont family, sitting in her gritty apartment making grave demands. “And then he says, ‘Well, this is what the church wants you to do, and if you don’t, then you could be excommunicated for failing to follow the leadership of the church,’ ” Hayes recalled. It was a serious threat. At that point Hayes still valued her place within the Mormon Church. “This is not playing around,” she said. “This is not like ‘You don’t get to take Communion.’ This is like ‘You will not be saved. You will never see the face of God.’ ” Romney would later deny that he had threatened Hayes with excommunication, but Hayes said his message was crystal clear: “Give up your son or give up your God.” ...read..."
The Dark Side of Mitt Romney | Vanity Fair


That's the 47% that Romney wanted to ignore.
 
actually we do that is why America lost, and Romney is doing ok.

More sour grapes? That seems to be your weird standard if you're not outright lying about bb guns.
 
"Hypocrisy" -- I don't think that word means what you think it means.

So, if you're a politician who advocates higher taxes on high incomes and a stronger social safety net -- but you yourself earn enough from various sources that you will pay some of those higher taxes and are unlikely to rely on that stronger safety net. A remarkable number of people look at that combination of personal and political positions and cry "Hypocrisy!"

No, it isn't. Supporting policies that are to your personal financial disadvantage isn't hypocrisy, it's civic virtue.

neither Hillary or buffett pay the maximum in taxes they can. they pay the least amount of taxes they can.
so yes it is hypocrisy.

needless to say if they feel the government needs more of their money
https://www.fms.treas.gov/faq/moretopics_gifts.html

they can use this link right here needless to say I have yet to meet a liberal that will put their money where their mouth is.
neither would Clinton or buffett.

more so when you are part of that evil 1% of rich people that these people are constantly complaining about.
these people must hate themselves a whole lot.
 
neither Hillary or buffett pay the maximum in taxes they can. they pay the least amount of taxes they can.
so yes it is hypocrisy.
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"Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes."
-- Justice Learned Hand, Gregory v. Helvering, 69 F.2d 809, 810 (2d Cir. 1934)
 
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